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DRAFT PICKS
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| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
School |
Jay's
ranking |
Jay's
draft value |
| 1 |
29 |
Hakeem
Nicks |
WR |
North
Carolina |
#3
WR |
Round
1 |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than
him. |
I
felt a lot more comfortable with Nicks on this list prior to him
showing up heavy for his Pro Day and running a disappointing
4.43 in the short shuttle. Nicks has good moves and good
hands. His speed is adequate, but he will develop into a
reliable, go-to receiver; a player his quarterback will look for
on critical third downs. |
| 2 |
45 |
Clint
Sintim |
OLB |
Virginia |
#10
OLB |
Round
3 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
| This
3-4 rush OLB, looked fine in pass rushing drills, made a
good play versus the run in 11 on 11's , but looked bad in
pass coverage. |
|
ONE
ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG |
| 2
- 2 |
Loadhold
1-1 Fulton 1-1 |
|
| 2 |
60 |
William
Beatty |
OT |
Connecticut |
#3
OT |
Round
1 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
| Beatty's
6-6 is better than it appears. This is a drill that
favors the defense and he was up against some good speed
rushers. |
|
ONE
ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG |
| 6
- 6 |
English
3-3 Brown 2-2 Barwin 1-1 |
|
|
Senior
Bowl Game |
I
was very very impressed with Beatty. He blocked well in
the run game and the pass game. Beatty is a prospect to
keep an eye on. |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than
him. |
Beatty
may be the most physically gifted tackle at the top of the
draft. He needs some work in the weight room, but will be
one of the best tackles to come out of this draft class.
Beatty is one of the better run blocking left tackle prospects
in the draft and more than held his own against speed rushers
during the one-on-one drills at the Senior Bowl. |
| 3 |
85 |
Ramses
Barden |
WR |
Cal
Poly |
#17
WR |
Round
4 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
Big
receiver who showed good hands, but looked to have trouble
separating from defensive backs. |
| 3 |
100 |
Travis
Beckum |
TE |
Wisconsin |
#7
TE |
Round
3 |
| 4 |
129 |
Andre
Brown |
RB |
North
Carolina State |
#5
RB |
Round
2 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
| Brown
showed quickness, good speed for a big back, and YAC.
He was quick thru the hole in 11 on 11's. He also
showed a willingness and toughness in the one-on-one
blocking drills. |
|
ONE
ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG |
| 2
- 3 |
Beckwith
1-1 R Johnson 1-0 Palmer
0-1 Maualuga 0-1 |
|
|
Senior
Bowl Game |
Brown's
stat line from the game is deceiving. He did have a nice
run on a screen pass showing decent speed. However in the
run game it was the little things that stood out.
For example, a fourth down conversion when there was not really
a hole to run through, a one yard TD, the ability for a bigger
back to bounce a run outside and gain good yards. |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than
him. |
Brown
is a big, strong back with sneaky speed, and excellent
hands. He is also an effective blocker. Brown could
be a better NFL player than he was a college player. Brown
looked very good during Senior Bowl practices and could, worst
case, be a two-way third down back. He could be both a
short yardage back and a shotgun back because he can catch,
block and is a load to bring down. |
| 5 |
151 |
Rhett
Bomar |
QB |
Sam
Houston State |
#6
QB |
Round
4 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
The
kid has a big-time arm, but was not as accurate as other
quarterbacks. Can throw the deep out and showed he can
run. Was ahead of Bradford before transferring. |
| 6 |
200 |
DeAndre
Wright |
CB |
New
Mexico |
NR |
7th/FA |
| 7 |
238 |
Stoney
Woodson |
CB |
South
Carolina |
NR |
Off
My Board |
| FA |
---- |
Maurice
Evans |
DE |
Penn
State |
NR |
Late
Round Value |
| FA |
---- |
Bruce
Johnson |
CB |
Miami |
#27
CB |
Round
5 |
|
A-
|
2009
COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD
|
by
Jay Goldberg
|
|
It
would have been fitting to give this draft a grade of
"B" since the Giants drafted five players in row
whose last name started with "B". However, A-
it is. Even though I may have gone in a few different
directions in the draft, the Giants did a great job.
They stole Beatty and Brown, and Bomar has the potential to
develop into a top backup and future high pick via a trade.
DRAFT
PICKS
The
Giants got very lucky when Nicks fell to them in round
one. I had him as the #3 rated receiver in this draft
class, and gave a lot of thought to moving him ahead of
Macklin. His over-weight workout that resulted in a
horrible short shuttle was what stopped me from moving him to
t#2. However, it wouldn't surprise me if Nicks catches
more balls long term than any receiver in this draft. He
has solid size and speed, runs good routes and has incredible
hands. He will be a number one receiver in time, and
provide the Giants with one of the top receivers in the
league.
Sintim
was one of the few linebackers who excelled outside in a 3-4
defense in college. So with all the movement towards 3-4
defenses in the league, he gets drafted by a team that plays a
4-3 defense. I have serious questions regarding Sintim's
ability to be a starting SAM in a 4-3 because of his
below-average cover skills. I might have followed up the
selection of Nicks, with another receiver, Massaquoi, who will
be a much better receiver in the NFL than Barden, who the
Giants selected in round three. However, Sintim should
be effective as a pass rusher in the nickel and gives the
Giants the option to employ some 3-4 looks with Kiwanuka and
Sintim playing outside.
Beatty
was an out and out steal at the bottom of round two. The
kid isn't ready yet, but has the skill set, strength and athleticism
to develop into a fine starting left tackle. Maybe next
year Beatty will step in and start at left tackle, allowing
Diehl to move back to guard making the Giants' line scary
good.
Barden
is a big kid with good hands but could have trouble getting
off the line and getting separation in the NFL. Now with
his size if he can get off the line he may not need much
separation to be a valuable asset. However, after
drafting Massaquoi in round two, I would have grabbed middle
linebacker Brinkley here. He would have been a great
special teams player while apprenticing behind Pierce,
possibly replacing the declining Pierce as early as this year.
Beckum
is a productive, athletic tight end who was a good get at this
spot. However, the taller, faster, better-blocking
Nelson would have been my pick.
Brown
showed a lot in the post-season. I had a second round
grade on him. He is a strong runner. He is an
excellent receiver. And he has better speed than most
think. I look for Brown to overtake Bradshaw as the
"wind" (Ward) in the Giants' backfield sooner rather
than later.
Bomar
landed in a great spot. I could see him going one of two
ways; playing early and failing, or waiting, learning and
succeeding. He has the arm, the release and the athleticism
to develop into a starting NFL quarterback. He just
needs time to improve his decision-making. Luckily for
him he can be brought along pressure-free with the
Giants. As Bomar develops I expect him to shine in
preseason games (and possibly in spot play if Manning gets
hurt or during blowouts), and then some team will come
knocking on New York's door offering a nice package of picks
to get the kid.
The
Giants had Wright graded more highly than me. My pick
here would have been corner/free safety Lankster, a kid who
has more upside than just a special-teamer which is how I have
Wright graded. Lankster could also have helped the
Giants as a return man.
One
of the best indicators of not being secure in your selection
is drafting the clone of a player previously drafted.
Woodson is very similar to Wright. So rather than trying
two and hoping for one, if the draft unfolded as the Giants
picked (rather than my picks), middle linebacker Beckwith
should have been the pick here. I would have brought in
a free agent as Wright-insurance and grabbed a kid that had no
business going undrafted in Beckwith.
COLLEGE
STREET FREE AGENTS
The
Giants didn't have many undrafted college street free agents
that jumped out at me. Maurice Evans is a quick
defensive end who will be a plus on special teams if he cracks
the roster. Worst case he should be a priority signing
to the Giants' development squad. I
like the potential of Bruce Johnson more than either Wright or
Woodson. However, Johnson is not as NFL-ready as either
of those two because he needs to add bulk and strength so he
can play on special teams while serving as a backup
corner. Johnson is fast, quick and athletic, but had a
poor final year at Miami. He has the potential to
develop into a solid slot corner. |
For
chart below: red indicates workout number in top range at position in
draft
ARM-HAND
relative to position, for ranges see ranking pages for 2009 draft
LAST
NAME
at Combine |
FIRST
NAME |
SCHOOL |
HGT |
WGT |
ARM-
HAND |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT |
LONG |
3
CONE |
VERT |
BROAD |
| Nicks |
Hakeem |
North
Carolina |
6'0.6" |
212 |
L-XL |
- |
4.49 |
1.52 |
2.60 |
4.43 |
- |
6.96 |
36" |
- |
| Sintim |
Clint |
Virginia |
6'2.6" |
256 |
XL-L |
- |
4.78 |
1.58 |
2.71 |
4.40 |
- |
7.37 |
34.5" |
9'11" |
| Beatty |
William |
Connecticut |
6'6" |
307 |
L-L |
27 |
5.03 |
1.72 |
2.93 |
4.77 |
- |
7.62 |
33.5" |
8'11" |
| Barden |
Ramses |
Cal-Poly |
6'6" |
229 |
XL-XL |
17 |
4.51 |
1.62 |
2.68 |
4.28 |
- |
7.10 |
33.5" |
10'2" |
| Beckum |
Travis |
Wisconsin |
6'2.6" |
239 |
XL-M |
28 |
4.61 |
1.56 |
2.64 |
4.24 |
- |
7.05 |
38.5" |
9'10" |
| Brown |
Andre |
N.C.
State |
6'0.1" |
224 |
L-L |
24 |
4.45 |
1.47 |
2.58 |
4.24 |
- |
7.04 |
37" |
9'7" |
| Bomar |
Rhett |
Sam
Houston St |
6'2.2" |
225 |
L-M |
25 |
4.71 |
1.59 |
2.75 |
4.06 |
- |
6.91 |
- |
8'10" |
| Wright |
DeAndre |
New
Mexico |
5'10.6" |
198 |
M-M |
17 |
4.52 |
1.50 |
2.62 |
4.44 |
- |
7.00 |
34.5" |
10'2" |
| Woodson |
Stoney |
South
Carolina |
5'10.5" |
196 |
- |
15 |
4.53 |
1.55 |
2.60 |
4.35 |
- |
7.23 |
33.5" |
9'3" |
| Evans |
Maurice |
Penn
State |
6'1.4" |
274 |
L-L |
22 |
4.75 |
1.61 |
2.76 |
4.32 |
- |
7.03 |
30" |
9'2" |
| Johnson |
Bruce |
Miami |
5'9.6" |
167 |
L-S |
6 |
4.42 |
1.49 |
2.59 |
4.03 |
- |
6.71 |
38.5" |
10'4" |
2009 NEEDS PRIOR TO DRAFT AND FREE
AGENCY
Major need
Need
Upgrade possible
Depth/possible need
Not a need
| QB |
Manning is a solid
quarterback you can win with. He is not a top tier guy and
will never be. Carr looked fine as his backup but is an
UFA. |
| RB |
Both Ward and Jacobs are
free agents. The Giants will likely get only one back.
That should be Jacobs, with Bradshaw ready to take Ward's role
in the offense., and RFA Ware ready to take Bradshaw's role. |
| WR |
The Giants will need a
make-over at receiver. Burress could be welcomed back, but
he also could be in jail, or playing for another team. You
have to plan as though he's gone. Toomer is an UFA whose
starting days are most likely behind him. That leaves
Hixon and Simth as sure contributors; Moss and Tyree as
possible; and Manningham a player who needs to improve top
contribute. The Giants need a top flight receiver. |
| TE |
Boss played well enough
to keep his job and expect improvement in his second year as a
starter. Matthews is a good blocker. Johnson does
everything okay. Upgrades, especially behind Boss could be
addressed. |
| OL |
The Giants' line is very,
very good. But it could be special if a dominate left
tackle is added and Diehl goes back to guard. In any case,
depth is needed. |
| DL |
With Umenyiora coming
back to pair with Tuck and Kiwanuka, the Giants have the best
trio of defensive ends in the NFL. Cofield and Robbins are
solid at tackle and Alford is growing into a relaible rotation
player as well. |
| LB |
Pierce is the one given
in this unit, but his play was down a bit from his prior two
years. Blackburn and Clark are okay but replaceable
starters. Wilkinson was thought to be a starter, but
injuries have probably robbed him of that chance. Kehl, Goff and
DeOssie are all good athletes who could see their roles
increase, especially Kehl, but none play the middle. |
| DB |
The Giants have an
excellent secondary. At corner Ross and Webster are a
good, young duo. Dockery is a good #3 corner but is an UFA.
If he leaves, Thomas should replace him and perform well.
At safety Butler and Johnson start and are solid but not
playmakers. Phillips, is the better playmaker and should
move into the starting lineup next year. |
| ST |
The Giants kicker and
punter went to the Pro Bowl, but they also are eligible to play
in old-timer games. Bradshaw and McQuarters are fine
returnmen but a game-breaker could be added as an upgrade. |
2008
DRAFT PICKS
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NFL.com website
| Arizona |
|
|
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Jay's ranking |
Jay's draft value |
| 1 |
31 |
Kenny
Phillips |
FS |
6'2.2" |
212 |
Miami |
#1 FS |
Round 1 |
| 2 |
63 |
Terrell
Thomas |
CS/S/Ret |
6'0.4" |
204 |
USC |
#13 CB |
Round 3 |
| 3 |
95 |
Mario
Manningham |
WR |
5'11.6" |
181 |
Michigan |
#8 WR |
Round 2/Round 3 |
| 4 |
123 |
Bryan
Kehl |
OLB |
6'2.2" |
242 |
BYU |
#8 OLB |
Round 3/Round 4 |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher
than him.
|
Kehl
is a very good athlete. He has the speed to chase plays
sideline-to-sideline and the quickness to stay with backs out
of the backfield. He also has a nose for the ball and
makes big plays. He will be a very good WILL in the NFL
and has the strength to play SAM as well. |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher
than him.
|
Goff
was thought to be a smart, instinctive, tough linebacker who
was limited athletically. His workout, however, shows he
is a good athlete for an inside linebacker. While he has
the measureables to play the middle in a 4-3 defense, I
believe his play on the field and size translate better to
playing inside in a 3-4. If he lands with a 3-4 team, he
could have a nice career as a starter. |
| 6 |
198 |
Andre'
Woodson |
QB |
6'4" |
229 |
Kentucky |
#7 QB |
Round 3/Round 4 |
| 6 |
199 |
Robert
Henderson |
DE |
6'3.1" |
278 |
So Miss |
|
Free Agent |
| FA |
|
Andrew Bain |
OG |
6'3.2" |
325 |
Miami |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Wallace Gilberry |
DE |
6'2" |
268 |
Alabama |
#18 DE |
Round 4 |
| FA |
|
D. J. Hall |
WR |
6'1.7" |
193 |
Alabama |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Nehemiah Warrick |
FS |
6'1.7" |
211 |
Colorado |
|
Late Round Value |
|
The
Giants had a solid draft. The Giants could have used a
left tackle but they flew off the board before they selected
in round one. Diehl is solid at that position but
putting in a stud there and moving him back to guard could
have made this unit a dominate one. In college street
free agency the team added an interesting prospect in
defensive end Gilberry.
DRAFT
PICKS
Phillips
was the best free safety in this draft and fills a need for
the Giants who lost Gibril Wilson in free agency.
Phillips has measureables, ball skills, and football smarts
and should be an important piece of their defense for years.
I
thought Thomas would be best served in a Tampa cover two
defense. However, he does have more speed than the
typical cover two corner so it wasn't that much of a stretch
for the Giants system which employs both man and zone.
Personally, I liked Charles Godfrey a bit more at this spot.
Manningham
is an enigma. While I had a second-to-third round grade
on him, he is too much of a hit-or-miss prospect for me with
Lavelle Hawkins and even Andre Caldwell still available.
I love Hawkins upside. Manningham is a player that needs
to mature as a person before he can be counted-on on the
football field.
Kehl
was a great pick in round four. This kid has a rare
combination of strength, speed, quickness, and athleticism.
He also has rare change-of-direction for a man his size.
He could develop into a dominating WILL, and could even hold
his own at SAM if needed. At BYU he had 91 tackles, 4
sacks, 11.5 tackles for loss and 3 interceptions his senior
year.
Goff
is the type of player that catches my eye in the draft
process. Considered strong, fast, but limited
athletically, Goff hit a home run with his workout. This
is a kid who needs some development but could grow into a
solid starting middle linebacker. With the G-men he can
settle in behind Pierce for a couple of years before taking
over.
Woodson
is a player with good quarterback skills but horrible, and I
mean horrible mechanics. His arm, smarts, pocket
awareness and accuracy are round two stuff. The way he
delivers the ball will make him David-Carr-like (sacked
continuously). If he is willing to re-learn how to play
the position, he could have a nice NFL career. If not he
will be out of the league quickly.
Henderson
was not on my radar. He may have a tough time making the
roster and could start the season on the Giants' practice
squad.
COLLEGE
STREET FREE AGENTS
Bain
is a big strong kid from a top college program who has a
chance to develop into a backup guard. He is an ideal
candidate for the Giants' practice squad.
Gilberry
is an interesting case. On film he looks like a good
player with the potential to get after the quarterback.
However, his workout was poor. He is certainly worth a
look in camp and could beat out Henderson for a roster spot.
Warrick
is an athletic safety with very good quickness. The
Giants have a lot of quality players fighting for roster spots
in the secondary, but Warrick has a legit shot to steal a
roster spot. One reason is that he can be a top special
teams player.
|
red
indicates workout number in top range at position in draft
(blue
college name indicates workout #'s include Pro Day numbers)
COMBINE
YES |
FIRST
NAME |
SCHOOL |
HEIGHT |
WEIGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT |
LONG |
3
CONE |
VERT |
BROAD |
| Phillips |
Kenny |
MIAMI |
6'2.2" |
212 |
19 |
4.48 |
1.47 |
2.53 |
4.27 |
NA |
6.97 |
34" |
10'1" |
| Thomas |
Terrell |
USC |
6'0.4" |
204 |
14 |
4.45 |
1.45 |
2.54 |
4.24 |
NA |
7.07 |
36" |
10'5" |
| Manningham |
Mario |
MICHIGAN |
5'11.6" |
181 |
16 |
4.38 |
1.57 |
2.65 |
4.27 |
NA |
7.34 |
35" |
9'9" |
| Kehl |
Brian |
BYU |
6'2.2" |
242 |
26 |
4.56 |
1.54 |
2.62 |
4.14 |
NA |
6.54 |
35" |
10'2" |
| Goff |
Jonathan |
VANDERBILT |
6'2" |
245 |
28 |
4.63 |
1.53 |
2.64 |
4.26 |
11.50 |
6.86 |
35.5" |
9'10" |
| Woodson |
Andre |
KENTUCKY |
6'4" |
229 |
NA |
4.85 |
1.65 |
2.78 |
4.33 |
NA |
7.28 |
27.5" |
9'1" |
| Henderson |
Robert |
SO
MISS |
6'3.1" |
278 |
22 |
4.81 |
1.63 |
2.71 |
4.53 |
NA |
7.28 |
NA |
9'6" |
| Bain |
Andrew |
MIAMI |
6'3.2" |
325 |
32 |
5.25 |
1.76 |
2.99 |
4.83 |
NA |
NA |
26" |
NA |
| Gilberry |
Wallace |
ALABAMA |
6'2" |
268 |
19 |
4.96 |
1.67 |
2.85 |
NA |
NA |
NA |
30" |
9'10" |
| Hall |
D.
J. |
ALABAMA |
6'1.7" |
193 |
NA |
4.55 |
1.55 |
2.60 |
NA |
NA |
NA |
32.5" |
10'5" |
| Warrick |
Nehemiah |
COLORADO |
6'1.7" |
211 |
16 |
4.54 |
1.50 |
2.61 |
4.09 |
NA |
6.98 |
32" |
10'0" |
2008 NEEDS
PRIOR TO DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY
NYG
Major
Need Need
Upgrade Depth
Need Not
a Need
| QB |
Eli
finally looks like he'll be an above average NFL quarterback.
The Giants need to bring in a player to compete with Lorenzen
and Wright. |
| RB |
Jacobs
and Bradshaw are an excellent one-two punch. Droughns is
still a valuable reserve. Ward is a RFA, but he is a
talented player as well. Hedgecock is a good fullback. |
| WR |
Burress
not only played up to his talent, but was a tough son-of-a-gun
as well. Toomer is still productive, but will be pushed
by Smith for a starting job next year. Tyree is a great
special teams player and showed he can catch the ball when
called upon also. Moss has disappeared. The Giants
may add a player for depth, especially if Toomer doesn't come
back. |
| TE |
I
like the Boss selection in the draft, and I like it even more
after watching him play when Shockey went down. Matthews
is a perfect third tight end. He can block and catches
okay. No need here unless Shockey is moved. |
| OL |
The
Giants' line played very well. I'd say a bit over their
heads. Diehl did a great job a left tackle, but I still
think he and the Giants would be best served with Diehl back
at guard and a larger player brought in to play left tackle.
If that doesn't happen, a backup should be brought in.
Also a young center to push O'Hara could also be addressed. |
| DL |
The
Giants are set at end. If Strahan retires, they may need
to add a backup end. However, if they move Kiwanuka back
to end, they may not. The team could use depth at
tackle. |
| LB |
Mitchell
(WILL) is a free agent and he played well enough to warrant
being a priority to resign. Pierce is solid in the
middle. Youngsters Wilkinson (WILL) and DeOssie (SAM)
are interesting prospects. I didn't like Kiwanuka at
SAM, he should return to defensive end. If Mitchell
leaves, the Giants will need to add a veteran linebacker to
compete with Wilkenson. In addition, a player to compete
with DeOssie for the SAM should be brought in. Torbor is
a valuable sub, not a top starter. |
| DB |
The
Giants suddenly are deep at cornerback. Ross really
stepped up in his rookie campaign and Webster improved late in
the year. Madison had a bounce back year of sorts,
before the season he was trending downward. Dockery and
McQuarters are useful subs. Safety is a different story.
Wilson was exceptional at free safety, but is a free agent.
If he leaves, there will be a big hole in the Giants' defense.
Butler is okay, but replaceable at strong safety.
Johnson showed some good things, and some bad things. |
| ST |
Both
kicker and punter are free agents. The return men (McQuarters,
Hixon) are ok, but if a dynamic player can be added it would
upgrade the unit. |
2007
DRAFT PICKS
links go to
NFL.com website
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Jay's ranking |
Jay's Draft Value |
| 1 |
20 |
Ross,
Aaron |
CB |
6-1 |
192 |
Texas |
# 4 CB |
Round 1 |
| 2 |
51 |
Smith,
Steve |
WR |
5-11 |
199 |
Southern
California |
# 7 WR |
Round 2 |
| 3 |
81 |
Alford,
Jay |
DT |
6-3 |
304 |
Penn
State |
|
Late Round Value |
| 4 |
116 |
DeOssie,
Zak |
OLB |
6-5 |
250 |
Brown |
#6 ILB |
Round 3 |
| 5 |
153 |
Boss,
Kevin |
TE |
6-6 |
257 |
Western
Oregon |
# 8 TE |
Round 4 |
| 6 |
189 |
Koets,
Adam |
OT |
6-5 |
298 |
Oregon
State |
# 8 OT |
Round 3 |
| 7 |
224 |
Johnson,
Michael |
SS |
6-3 |
211 |
Arizona |
# 6 FS |
Round 4 |
| 7 |
250 |
Bradshaw,
Ahmad |
RB |
5-9 |
198 |
Marshall |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Dahl, Craig |
SS |
6-2 |
215 |
North Dakota St |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Gunn, Marquies |
DE |
6-4 |
266 |
Auburn |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Keenan, Ryan |
OG |
6-5 |
295 |
Northwestern |
|
Off My Board |
| FA |
|
London, Brandon |
WR |
6-4 |
214 |
Massachusetts |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Matthews, Michael |
TE |
6-3 |
261 |
Georgia Tech |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Thomas, Marco |
WR |
5-11 |
186 |
Western Illinois |
|
Off My Board |
|
The
Giants had a very good draft. They addressed need areas
and only reached for one player (Alford), while getting good
value with all of their day two selections. In free
agency they didn't add any eye-openers, but did add some players
with a chance to make the roster and contribute.
I like Ross a lot and cornerback was the number one need for the
Giants. He is a tough kid who will be an above average
corner with good cover skills, good ball skills, and provide
good run support. He is also a very good punt returner.
Although I am in the minority, I liked Chris Houston better.
I believe Houston will be a Pro Bowl caliber cornerback.
However, Ross has less of a downside than Houston so I cannot
fault the Giants for selecting him. They badly need a
corner who will succeed. Smith in round two is an
interesting pick. He has good hands and quickness, is a
student of the game, and is sneaky fast. With Toomer
coming back from injury and Moss not able to stay healthy, he
will get a chance to contribute in his rookie year.
However, I still look for Moss to get on the field as the
Giants' #3 wideout; he is a major playmaker. So Smith may
have to beat out Toomer to be a significant contributor this
year. Alford was the one reach in the Giants' draft.
That doesn't mean he will not be a contributor. As he is
now he will be best served in the Giants defense as backup at
tackle who plays on passing downs. If he hits the weight
room, he has the frame to grow into a two-way tackle who can
play the run and the pass. I liked Tyler and Mebane better
at this spot. DeOssie is another player I like a lot.
Initially he will be a stellar special teams player. In
time he could be a starting SAM linebacker (Kiwanuka could go
back to end when Strahan retires and DeOssie can replace him in
the starting lineup). DeOssie is strong, fast, quick and
athletic. Even better, when the Giants' replace their head
coach after the season with the 3-4 cow-guy from Pittsburgh
(how's this for an early prediction), DeOssie is a perfect fit
at inside linebacker in that scheme. The Giants don't have
a proven backup tight end on their roster. Shockey plays
hard and gets banged up so a reliable second tight end is a
needed. Boss should be that tight end. He is a
willing blocker and a good receiver with deceptive speed and
good athleticism. He will make a contribution immediately
which is very good for a fifth round pick. Koets could be
the steal of the draft for the Giants. I had a third round
grade on him. Koets plays with good technique and is a
heady player. Originally it was thought that he was
limited athletically. However, he had one of the better
workouts for tackles. Look for Koets to grow into a very
solid starter in a year or two. Johnson is a good football
player who needs to improve his tackling skills. However,
that could hurt him since he was drafted late so will be
expected to contribute on special teams coverage units.
Long term, Johnson's best position could be free safety even
though he was a strong safety in college. He has good
quickness and ball skills and could develop into a solid
center-field-tyoe of safety. If Bradshaw improves his
blocking he could be the Giants' third-down back. He is
quick and has good hands, but lacks breakaway speed. The
Giants don't have a returning third-down back on their roster.
The
Giants signed some college street free agents who could stick.
Dahl is a good athlete who has a nice mix of size, speed and
quickness. While he could develop into a starting
in-the-box strong safety down the line, he will be a
special teams demon if he makes the team. If Johnson has
trouble tackling in camp, Dahl could steal his backup safety
job. Gunn needs to add bulk to stick as a backup defensive
end since his strength is playing the run. He hustles but
lacks the speed to be a consistent pass rusher. Keenan is
who the development squad was made for, a recent convert from
defense to the offensive line. He is a smart and strong
but needs work. London was almost drafted by the Giants in
round seven and was a priority target in college street free
agency. In a deep receiver class he got lost in the
shuffle. He has excellent size and is very quick for a 6-4
receiver. He is another candidate for the Giants'
development squad. Matthews may have found the perfect
team for him. He is a very good blocker with good speed
who can be the Giants' number three tight end, number two
fullback, and number one h-back. Marco Thomas is a kid who
has been beating the odds his whole life. He has excellent
straight-line speed, guts, and good hands. He may not make
it but he won't make it easy for the coaching staff to cut him.
|
red
indicates workout number in top range at position in draft
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| ROSS |
AARON |
TEXAS-AUSTIN |
CB/RET |
6'0.4" |
193 |
17 |
4.44 |
1.50 |
2.55 |
4.15 |
|
6.67 |
34" |
9'10" |
| Ross
is a solid corner. He has good strength and quickness,
changes direction very well, is good in coverage and has good
ball skills. He should develop into a reliable long term
starter, but may fall a bit short of Pro Bowl caliber. He
is also a good punt returner. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| SMITH |
STEVE |
USC |
WR |
5'11.6" |
197 |
|
4.44 |
1.46 |
2.52 |
4.19 |
|
6.68 |
38" |
10'0" |
| Smith
is a reliable target with good quickness. He is also
sneaky fast and makes sharp cuts. He is aslo a smart
receiver who knows how to get open. I like him better than
his more heralded teammate, Dwayne Jarrett. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| ALFORD |
JAY |
PENN
ST |
DT/DE |
6'3.3" |
304 |
24 |
5.07 |
1.71 |
2.90 |
4.53 |
|
7.48 |
25.5" |
8'7" |
| Alford
is a quick tackle who could move outside and play end in a 3-4
defense. He will need to hit the weight room to be a
starting tackle in 4-3 defense. However, he could be a
valuable rotation player at that spot, playing on passing downs. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| DEOSSIE |
ZAK |
BROWN |
ILB/OLB |
6'4.5" |
250 |
26 |
4.53 |
1.56 |
2.66 |
4.22 |
11.50 |
6.89 |
34.5" |
10'2" |
|
PLAYER
WHO COULD HAVE A BETTER NFL CAREER THAN PLAYERS SELECTED AHEAD
OF HIM in the DRAFT
|
| DeOssie
was all over the field, both on defense and special teams at the
East West Shrine Game. His workout numbers fully support
that performance. At 250 pounds, he is one of the best
athletes at linebacker in the draft. DeOssie is another
player with the size to play inside in a 3-4 and speed to play
inside in a 4-3. Another intriguing possibility, is to use
his size, speed, and strength to play the SAM in a 4-3.
No matter where he ends up, DeOssie will have a productive NFL
career while players drafted ahead of him don't dress for games. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| BOSS |
KEVIN |
WESTERN
OREGON |
TE |
6'6.5" |
253 |
15 |
4.71 |
1.63 |
2.71 |
4.41 |
11.81 |
6.96 |
35.5" |
10'0" |
| Boss
is an athletic, big target with acceptable speed and quickness
for a tight end, and very good change-of-direction skills.
He is also a hard worker and has soft hands. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| KOETS |
ADAM |
OREGON
ST |
OT |
6'5.1" |
298 |
20 |
5.08 |
1.68 |
2.90 |
4.47 |
|
7.44 |
32" |
8'10" |
| Koets
knows how to play the game. He was considered a smart
player and a scrapper. Originally, it was thought that his
workout would be pedestrian. However, he showed good speed
and quickness and was a better athlete than advertised.
Put it all together and Koets is a nice sleeper in the draft. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| JOHNSON |
MICHAEL |
ARIZONA |
FS/SS |
6'2.5" |
205 |
18 |
4.53 |
1.52 |
2.61 |
4.11 |
|
7.04 |
35.5" |
9'9" |
| Johnson
played strong safety in college but projects best as a free
safety in the NFL. While he is strong and built solidly he
is not currently a reliable tackler. However, he has the
speed, quickness, and ball skills to play free safety. In
any case he will have tom improve his tackling skills because he
will need to start off on special teams coverage units. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| BRADSHAW |
AHMAD |
MARSHALL |
RB |
5'9.4" |
198 |
|
4.55 |
1.59 |
2.68 |
4.09 |
|
6.70 |
34" |
9'4" |
| Bradshaw
is a third-down, change-of-pace back. He is quick, makes
sharp cuts in the hole, but lacks breakaway speed. He is a
good receiver, but needs work on his blocking. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| DAHL |
CRAIG |
N
DAKOTA ST |
SS |
6'1.5" |
215 |
17 |
4.53 |
1.53 |
2.61 |
4.10 |
11.03 |
6.69 |
35" |
10'2" |
| Dahl
is a headhunter with a nice combination of size, speed and
quickness. He should be a valuable special teams performer
and could develop into an in-the-box strong safety. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| GUNN |
MARQUIES |
AUBURN |
DE |
6'3.7" |
266 |
26 |
4.81 |
1.62 |
2.77 |
|
|
7.46 |
31.5" |
9'6" |
| Gunn
is a tweener as an end. He is a tough kid who looks like
he should be a good pass rusher, but is really better against
the run. If he adds bulk he could win a job as a backup. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| KEENAN |
RYAN |
N/WESTERN |
OG |
6'4.4" |
295 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Keenan
started his college football career on the defensive line and
was moved to the offensive line. He has played both guard
and tackle and is a very smart and very strong kid. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| LONDON |
BRANDON |
MASS |
WR |
6'4.3" |
214 |
|
4.54 |
1.49 |
2.66 |
4.15 |
|
6.55 |
38" |
10'2" |
| London
has good size and hands, decent speed and good quickness.
He also can make sharp cuts. He will get lost in this deep
wide receiver draft but is worth a shot late in the draft or as
a priority free agent. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| MATTHEWS |
MICHAEL |
GEORGIA
TECH |
TE/FB |
6'3.3" |
261 |
22 |
4.70 |
1.60 |
2.67 |
4.46 |
|
7.49 |
31.5" |
9'2" |
| Matthews
is a very good blocker who has sneaky speed. He could
stick as a versatile tight end, h-back and fullback. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| THOMAS |
MARCO |
WEST
ILL |
WR |
5'11.1" |
186 |
|
4.38 |
1.49 |
2.51 |
4.31 |
|
7.03 |
|
|
| Thomas
is a kid who has been overcoming big odds his whole life.
He has excellent straight line speed and could overcome the odds
to make a roster once again. |
2007
TEAM NEEDS PRIOR TO THE DRAFT and FREE AGENCY
major
need
need
depth/possible
need
not a significant need
| QB |
Manning
needs to take a step forward or the Giants may be in the
position the Texans are in now. |
| RB |
Barber
retired, Jacobs has looked good, but another body is needed. |
| WR |
Toomer
is coming off injury and getting older, Burress is solid, Moss
should come on. |
| TE |
Shockey
is good, but gets banged up too much, Shiancoe is an UFA. |
| OL |
Petitgout
was released, O'Hara is an UFA. |
| DL |
Defensive
end is set, but a tackle is needed to pair with Cofield.
Robins played well, Joseph did it. |
| LB |
MLB
Pierce is the only solid starter. Wilkinson has
potential. Short is a decent stop-gap. |
| DB |
Corner
is an major need area. Wilson, Demps, and Butler give
them decent safeties. |
| ST |
Feely
is an UFA. Moss needs to come on as a return man.
Morton was cut. |
2006
DRAFT PICKS
Links go to write-ups at NFL.com
| N.Y.
Giants |
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Jay's
ranking |
Jay's
draft value |
| 1 |
32 |
Kiwanuka,
Mathias |
DE |
6-6 |
265 |
Boston
College |
#
5 DE |
Round
2 |
| 2 |
44 |
Moss,
Sinorice |
WR |
5-8 |
184 |
Miami
(Fla.) |
#
3 WR |
Round
1 |
| 3 |
96 |
Wilkinson,
Gerris |
ILB |
6-3 |
239 |
Georgia
Tech |
#
3 ILB |
Round
2 |
| 4 |
124 |
Cofield,
Barry |
DT |
6-4 |
303 |
Northwestern |
#
12 DT |
Round
3 |
| 4 |
129 |
Whimper,
Guy |
OT |
6-5 |
305 |
East
Carolina |
#
10 OT |
Round
4 |
| 5 |
158 |
Peprah,
Charlie |
SS |
5-11 |
202 |
Alabama |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| 7 |
232 |
McPhearson,
Gerrick |
CB |
5-10 |
191 |
Maryland |
#
17 CB |
Round
4 |
| |
FA |
Mix,
Anthony |
WR |
6-4 |
235 |
Auburn |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| |
FA |
Evans,
Willie |
DE |
6-1 |
269 |
Mississippi
St |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| |
FA |
Anderson,
Sir Henry |
DT |
6-4 |
306 |
Oregon
State |
#
15 DT |
Round
4 |
| |
FA |
Green,
Marcus |
DT |
6-1 |
295 |
Ohio
State |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| |
FA |
Coley,
Tevis |
SS |
6-1 |
227 |
Southern
Miss |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| |
FA |
Coley,
Kevis |
OLB |
6-1 |
231 |
Southern
Miss |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
|
The Giants reached in round
one, but got good to great value at all other spots in the
draft, and signed some good college street free agents.
The Giants selected four players from my list of prospects who
will have a better NFL career than many selected higher than
them in the draft (Wilkinson, Cofield, Whimper, McPhearson).
I know, I know; how can a
team reach in round one but still get a grade of A? The
reason is simple. Before the draft, the player I thought
the Giants should draft in round one was Sinorice Moss.
He was a perfect fit for what the Giants needed. He
would complete their offense, putting it on par with any in
the NFL (assuming that Manning takes another step in his
development). In fact, I projected Moss to the Giants in
my mock draft where the Giants were selecting 25th, not 32nd.
If the Giants did indeed draft Moss in round one, and then
selected Kiwanuka in round two, neither would have been a
reach, and both would have represented good value. So
for grading purposes the steal of Moss in round two makes up
for the reach of Kiwanuka in round one. Kiwanuka has
good pass rushing skills, is quick, and athletic.
However, he will need to get stronger to be able to play
against the run and to be able to mount a rush against the
stronger tackles in the league. With Starhan, Umenyiora,
and Tuck on board, Kiwanuka will have time to develop.
He will be a pass rush specialist this year, and could be
Strahan's eventual replacement when age catches up to the 34
year old All Pro. Moss has it all except size. He
is quick, quick, quick, with great acceleration, superb
cutting ability, tremendous athleticism, and very good hands.
Moss in the slot on passing downs will require defenses to pay
special attention to him. With Burress, Toomer, Shockey
and Barber also on the field, it's hard to imagine someone not
getting open. Now if Manning continues to improve and
the Giants' offensive line holds up, this traditionally
defensive-minded team could challenge to be the most potent
offense in the league. Moss may not be the best
offensive rookie next year from a stat and production
perspective, but he may be the single most important new
offensive addition from the draft. With Arrington slated
to play the SAM, and Pierce a young star in the middle,
Wilkinson could be the Giants' starting WILL by year's end,
beating out both Emmons and Short. If he doesn't start
by the end of this year, he will be a solid backup and
excellent special teams player this year, and a starter next
year. Wilkinson has good speed, excellent quickness, is a
tackling machine, can blitz, and is a terrific athlete.
Arrington-Pierce-Wilkinson will be one of the top linebacking
corps in the NFL in a couple of years. Cofield is fast,
quick, athletic and strong. He will be part of the
rotation at tackle this year, and is another draft pick who
could be a starter by year's end. Whimper was another
good choice. Having started only one year at tackle, he
will need time to develop. Whimper has superb speed,
quickness and footwork for a tackle, and is also a strong
young man. He may not see the field this year, but the
Giants' may finally have their future replacement for
Petitgout, a player they have been looking to replace as a
starter on and off the last few years. Peprah projects
as an ideal nickel or dime back. He has experience at
safety and corner, is very quick, and is a smart player.
He should also be a valuable, versatile sub who can be an
asset on special teams. McPherson was the fastest player
in the draft. It was said he ran in the low 4.2s at
college. However, speed is not McPherson's only calling
card. He is quick, he is strong, he is a top athlete, he
can cut on a dime. If his production on the field
matched his workout he would have been a first round pick, but
McPherson got beat too often. My analysis is that he
relied too much on his athletic ability at Maryland, and if he
gets good coaching, he could develop into a very good starting
cornerback in the league. Worst case, McPherson will be
a terror on special teams.
The Giants followed up a
very good draft with some quality college street free agents
signings. Mix is a big receiver who has good speed for
his size, and makes catches in traffic. There are
questions about his character which is probably why he went
undrafted. He also needs to be play a more physical game
to take advantage of his size. If Mix toes the line he
could stick, worst case, as a member of the Giants' practice
squad. Evans is an effort player who may find it tough
to stick because of the Giants' talent at defensive end, but
will also make it tough for the Giants' coaching staff to cut
him because of his work ethic. Look for Evans to be on
the Giant's practice squad if he isn't picked up by another
team. Anderson is a run stuffing defensive tackle who
has a shot to win a backup job with the Giants. I had a
fourth round grade on Anderson. Green is an undersized
defensive tackle with exceptional strength and good work
habits. He may have to beat out Anderson for a roster
spot. The Coley brothers could also stick. Tevis
is the more athletic, but wasn't as good at Southern Miss.
However, his athleticism will allow him to compete at strong
safety where the Coley's skills are in the acceptable range
for the position. Kevis was a star of his team, but will
have to compete at WILL, and his athletic skills are not quite
up to the level usually required for that position. Both
Coley brothers should be good special teams players.
|
red indicates
workout number in top range at position in draft
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Kiwanuka |
Boston
Col |
6'5.6",
266 |
4.73 |
1.66 |
2.77 |
4.13 |
|
7.29 |
17 |
32' |
10'0" |
|
DE
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET -
Kimanuka is a tall, rangy defensive end with good speed.
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET
- Kiwanuka did not have a particularly good week of practice at
the Senior Bowl. He was kept in check by the Brick in pass
rush drills.
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET
- Kiwanuka had 32.5 sacks and 42 tackles for loss his last two
years in college. Kiwanuka has good quickness and
athleticism but will need to hit the weight room to be a force
against the run. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Moss |
Miami |
5'8",
185 |
4.38 |
1.48 |
2.53 |
|
|
|
|
42" |
10'3" |
|
WR
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - A very explosive player.
Moss is lightning-quick, fast, has good hands and amazing
acceleration. A definite play-maker in the NFL, he is an
ideal slot receiver who will have to be double-teamed to be
contained. Moss will be a more productive NFL player than
he was a college player. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Wilkinson |
Georgia
Tech |
6'3",
233 |
4.62 |
1.67 |
2.73 |
4.08 |
|
7.23 |
19 |
41" |
10'11" |
|
|
PLAYER
WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE
HIM
|
After
Jackson and Hodge there are some differences in opinions
regarding the next inside linebacker who should come off
the board. In my opinion, there should be no
debate. Wilkinson is clearly the next best, and is
very close in value to Hodge. Wilkinson has good
speed and quickness for the position, is a surprisingly
good athlete, and was very productive at Georgia Tech. |
ILB
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET -
Wilkinson played well during the Senior Bowl Game.
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET
- Wilkinson has played inside linebacker, outside
linebacker, and even some defensive end. He has the
ability to blitz and is a tackle hound. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Cofield |
Northwestern |
6'4",
304 |
4.99 |
1.68 |
2.88 |
4.35 |
|
7.43 |
35 |
34" |
8'9" |
|
|
PLAYER
WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE
HIM
|
Cofield
is one of the more athletic tackles in this draft class,
and has the perfect build to play end in a 3-4 defense.
He is strong (35 benches) and quick for his size.
With more conditioning, Cofield could be a find for a
team late in day one or early in day two and out-perform
players drafted higher than him. |
DT/DE
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET -
Cofield's best NFL position will be as a 3-4 defensive end.
However, he does possess the strength and athletic ability to be
a good tackle for a 4-3 team as well. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Whimper |
East
Carolina |
6'4.6",
304 |
4.95 |
1.77 |
2.95 |
4.59 |
|
7.38 |
26 |
29" |
8'6" |
|
|
PLAYER
WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE
HIM
|
Wimper
is a former tight end with superb quickness. Being
only a one-year starter he will need time to improve his
technique. However, I expect the time working with
Wimper to pay big dividends to the team that drafts him. |
OT
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET -
Whimper is a former TE who only played OL for one year. He
can get bigger and stronger and is an intriguing developmental
prospect. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Peprah |
Alabama |
5'10.7",
206 |
4.53 |
1.63 |
2.75 |
4.09 |
10.83 |
6.69 |
17 |
37.5" |
9'11" |
|
SS/CB
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET -
Peprah has good speed, excellent quickness, and projects best as
a free safety who can step out and cover receivers when needed.
He is also a heady player with experience at corner. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| McPhearson |
Maryland |
5'10.1",
196 |
4.32 |
1.51 |
2.60 |
4.07 |
10.94 |
6.65 |
18 |
41.5" |
10'9" |
|
|
PLAYER
WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE
HIM
|
It
is a know fact that McPhearson is one of the fastest
players in the draft. However, his workout also
showed he is strong, quick, and athletic.
McPhearson needs coaching because he will not be able to
rely on his athleticism in the NFL as he did in college.
With the right coach, McPhearson could be a star. |
CB |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Mix |
Auburn |
6'4.1",
235 |
4.45 |
1.64 |
2.71 |
4.43 |
|
7.18 |
|
31.5" |
9'7" |
|
WR
Jay Goldberg,
900FootballLinks.NET - Mix has good size and is fast for a
6'4", 235 pound receiver. He also has good hands and
catches the ball well in traffic. However, Mix needs to
use his size better by playing a more physical game, and there
are some concerns regarding his character. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Evans,
W |
Mississippi
St |
6'1.3",
269 |
4.95 |
|
|
4.50 |
|
7.30 |
25 |
32.5" |
8'5" |
|
DE -NOT AT COMBINE
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Evans
is a scrapper with good quickness and is a player I wouldn't bet
against making onto a NFL roster. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Anderson,
Sir H |
Oregon
State |
6'3.6",
306 |
5.24 |
1.87 |
3.02 |
4.58 |
|
7.70 |
27 |
28.5" |
8'4" |
|
DT/NT
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET -
Anderson is a run-stuffing defensive tackle. He has good
size and strength and could play in either a 3-4 or a 4-3
defense. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Green |
Ohio
State |
6'1",
295 |
5.16 |
1.85 |
3.07 |
4.88 |
|
7.62 |
33 |
31" |
9'0" |
|
DT
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Green
is an undersized defensive tackle with great strength. He
either needs to bulk up to play tackle in a 4-3 or switch to end
in a 3-4. He is a hard worker who will be an asset on
special teams. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Coley,
T |
So
Mississippi |
6'1",
227 |
4.46 |
|
|
4.23 |
|
6.83 |
18 |
37" |
10'0" |
|
SS - NOT AT COMBINE
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Coley
played linebacker in college but projects as a strong safety in
the NFL. He has good speed and change-of-direction skills
and could catch on as a special teams player and backup. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Coley,
K |
So
Mississippi |
6'0.7",
231 |
4.51 |
|
|
4.43 |
|
6.90 |
19 |
37.5" |
9'10" |
|
OLB -NOT AT COMBINE
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Coley
was a team leader at college and was one of the top players on
his team. However, he may lack the athletic skills to be
anything more than a special teams player and backup at WILL.
However, he could be a top special teams player. |
2006
TEAM NEEDS
prior to free agency
| NYG |
| QB |
Manning still has some developing to
do, but he is on his way. Hasselbeck is an okay
backup but an upgrade is a possibility. |
| RB |
Barber is excellent. Ward and
Jacobs are good backups, but may not be able to carry
the load if Barber gets hurt. Jacobs, however, has
an interesting upside. |
| WR |
Toomer had a solid year but is getting
up in years. Don't worry about Burress, his
numbers dropped down the stretch because Manning wasn't
as effective. Carter has speed, but is injured too
often and is an UFA. The Giants need a receiver
who can challenge Toomer, and a healthy reliable option
as their number three or four. |
| TE |
Shockey is one of the best. The
jury is still out on Shiancoe, but I like him. |
| OL |
The Giants line allowed the team to
post gaudy running numbers, and allowed a reasonable 28
sacks. However, LT Peitgout gets penalties and a
decision will be need to be made because of his cap
cost, and O'Hara gets by, but is replaceable.
There may be changes on the Giants' line but it could be
a reshuffling under the cap rather than as a result of
need. |
| DL |
A major strength. Strahan and
Umenyiora may be the best end tandem in the league.
Tuck had a solid rookie year and provides good depth.
Clancy was a free agent steal at tackle, and Joseph
finally showed some life. Robbins offers good
depth. |
| LB |
Because of how the Giants ended the
season, everyone is panicking. However, Pierce in
the middle, and Emmons or Torbor on the strong side are
back. Greisen played well on the weak side but is
an UFA. Blackburn proved he could be a solid backup in
the middle. The Giants could have two new
starters, but they have some players on hand who are
more than serviceable in case they decide to go in other
directions. |
| DB |
Allenis an UFA who, most likely, will
be allowed to walk. Peterson has an injury he may
have trouble coming back from. Webster player okay
as a rookie and has some upside. However, a corner
is a major need. In fact, two new corners, a
starter and a nickel could be added. At
safety Wilson is a very good player who plays at a Pro
Bowl level. Alexander, keeps hanging in there, but
one day, the Giants will replace him with a young stud.
That young player could be Butler, who played well as a
rookie free agent, or could be someone from the 2006
draft. |
| ST |
Feely, Morton, and Ponder are solid. So
is Feagles, but he is on the wrong side of not 30, but
40. |
|
2005
COLLEGE DRAFT
| N.Y.
Giants -
links below go to NFL.com reports |
Jaybird |
Jaybird |
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Ranking |
Value Board |
| 2 |
43 |
Webster,
Corey |
CB |
6-0 |
204 |
Louisiana
State |
# 7 CB |
Round 2 |
| 3 |
74 |
Tuck,
Justin |
DE |
6-5 |
256 |
Notre
Dame |
# 7 DE |
Round 2 |
| 4 |
110 |
Jacobs,
Brandon |
RB |
6-4 |
256 |
Southern
Illinois |
# 14 RB |
Round 4 |
| 6 |
186 |
Moore,
Eric |
DE |
6-4 |
255 |
Florida
State |
# 10 DE |
Round 3 |
| FA |
|
Wake, Derek |
OLB |
6-3 |
236 |
Penn State |
#9 OLB |
Round 3 |
| FA |
|
Butler, James |
FS |
6-2 |
212 |
Georgia Tech |
# 7 FS |
Round 3 |
| FA |
|
Wallace, Kyle |
OT |
6-6 |
305 |
Georgia Tech |
Late Round Value |
> Round 4 |
| FA |
|
Grant, Ryan |
RB |
6-1 |
215 |
Notre Dame |
Late Round Value |
> Round 4 |
| FA |
|
Ferri, Diamond |
SS |
5-10 |
224 |
Syracuse |
Late Round Value |
> Round 4 |
| The Giants got excellent value with their four
selections, and signed a couple of the best college street
free agents available.
Last year I knocked the Giants' draft. I stated that
they should have kept their picks, stayed where they were and
drafted Big Ben. Time will tell if I was right, but
Roethlisberger certainly showed he can be a top quarterback in
the NFL. With only four picks the Giants had to hit on
all of them. They did. If Webster came out a year
earlier, he would have been a first round pick.
Hamstring problems affected his draft status this year (hurt
his play some, and his ability to workout). He is a
solid player who will challenge Frank Walker for the nickel
this year, and possibly, Will Allen as a starter next year.
Tuck was a steal in round three. The Giants desperately
needed depth at defensive end, and Tuck was a player some
mentioned as a possibility late in round one, or early in
round two. He is a good pass rusher, and has the
mind-set to succeed at end. Jacobs will give the Giants
something they expected from Ron Dayne, but never got, a tough
inside runner who can get the first down on third and short.
However, he should not be pigeon-holed as a specialist.
With 4.56 speed (in the forty), great strength and good
athletic ability, he could be Tiki Barber's heir apparent.
Moore is a pass rush specialist, much like Torbor who was
drafted in the fourth round last year. While I did not
like the Torbor selection last year (particularly as the first
pick on day two), I like the Moore pick. Torbor was
selected as a linebacker, something he won't be unless the
Giants go to a 3-4. Moore was drafted as a pass-rushing
defensive end, something he will do well. I had a third
round grade on Moore making him a great value pick in round
six.
With only four selections, the Giants needed to make a big
splash with their college street free agent signings.
They did. In fact, they grabbed two of the better
players available. The first was outside linebacker
Derek Wake. Check out his workout numbers below.
He is quick, strong, athletic, and smart. He is still
not all the way back from a knee injury suffered in college,
but his workout shows he may be all the way back this year.
Before his injury Wake was a difference maker on defense.
He will be a good special teams player and backup this year,
and should be a contributor to their base defense (maybe even
a starter) in 2006. The Giants' second major signing was
safety James Butler. He is another impressive athlete
(check out his workout numbers below as well) with speed and
quickness. While he has played both corner and safety,
he projects best as a free safety where he can use his
athletic ability, and is a plus coverage player. As a
corner his coverage ability is average. Butler has a
legit shot to become the Giants' long term answer at free
safety down-the-line, pairing up with Wilson, who played great
last year. I wouldn't surprise me if in 2007 both Butler
and Wake were starters for the Giants. Not bad for free
agents. By the way, I had a third round grade on both
Wake and Butler. The Giants signing of quality free
agents extended beyond these two. Offensive tackle Kyle
Wallace is a good developmental project who has quickness and
strength. Running back Ryan Grant is a speedy,
between-the-tackle back who could be a quality NFL backup.
Strong safety Diamond Ferri is a player I wouldn't bet against
making the team. He is a former running back who is
improving as a safety, and is a tough kid with good leadership
qualities.
|
RED NUMBERS BELOW - among
best at position
Long shuttle numbers (where available) in blue, top performers to be
determined later
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Webster |
CB |
4.45 |
|
4.03 |
|
6.93 |
13 |
39" |
10'4" |
12 |
Len
Pasquarelli of NFL.com reports: Timing is everything
in football, just as in life, LSU cornerback Corey Webster
acknowledged to ESPN.com this week. And so maybe, if he could
turn back the clock, Webster would have bypassed his final
season of college eligibility last spring and gone into the 2004
draft. Had he been in last year's lottery, Webster, who had a
brilliant '03 season, one in which he snagged seven
interceptions, probably would have been a first-round choice.
But he stayed in school for his senior year, suffered a series
of injuries (including a nagging hamstring strain), and had an
uneven season that dropped him on some 2005 draft boards.
The good news is that Webster finished his bachelor's and now
owns a degree in general studies. From a football standpoint,
the news is good, too. Finally healthy again, Webster recently
worked out for scouts and was clocked on most stopwatches in the
mid-4.4s in the 40. His stock, on the decline, is rising again.
There is at least an outside chance, particularly if there is an
early run on cornerbacks in the first round, that Webster could
sneak into the bottom part of the stanza. He is no worse now
than a high second-round pick.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: May be
the fastest corner in the draft. He is also 6'0".
Webster is a converted wide receiver who still needs time to
refine his game. However, he has a very good upside. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Tuck |
DE |
4.72 |
|
4.41 |
|
7.31 |
24 |
38" |
9'10" |
29 |
Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Tuck has
added twenty pounds to his frame so he can play defensive end in
either a 3-4 or 4-3 alignment. Tuck is a good athlete,
with excellent pass rush moves.
Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: At a time when a
lot of the defensive end prospects here are suggesting they can
also stand up in a two-point stance and get some snaps at
linebacker in a 3-4 alignment, one guy who isn't looking for a
hybrid role is Justin Tuck of Notre Dame. Tuck has nice
"length" to him, at 6-feet-5 and 268 pounds, and with
long arms, but clearly feels that he is best suited to play
right end in a 4-3 defense. "I've played my whole career
with my hand on the ground, rushing the quarterback from [a
three-point] technique, and that's my game," said Tuck,
projected by several teams as a first-rounder. "I'm aware
that teams are looking for the all-around guy who can do a lot
of things. But I think I've established what my strengths are
and hope people evaluate me on those." |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Jacobs |
RB |
4.56 |
1.69 |
4.37 |
|
7.53 |
23 |
38" |
9'10" |
20 |
Allen
Trieu of NFLDraftShowcase.com reports: Jacobs
obviously has rare physical tools for a running back. His speed
considering his size is excellent and he is a scary player to
see in the secondary. He must play "up to his size"
more and be a little more physical as a runner, but Jacobs will
be a great short yardage option at the next level and should be
a late 1st day, early 2nd day selection.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Jacobs
is a very big running back from both a height and weight
standpoint. Rumor has it he can run the forty in about
4.5. If that is the case, he will be an intriguing
prospect. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Moore |
DE |
4.61 |
1.81 |
4.40 |
|
7.62 |
22 |
34.5" |
9'0" |
9 |
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Now
healthy, Moore was unstoppable at the Hula Bowl. He looks
like a good pass-rushing defensive end. One of my top five
players in the game. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Wake |
OLB |
4.71 |
1.63 |
4.13 |
|
7.12 |
20 |
42.5" |
10'10" |
21 |
|
JAYBIRD
PLAYER WHO WILL HAVE A BETTER NFL CAREER THAN MANY
DRAFTED HIGHER THAN HIM
|
Hey, maybe Penn
State will be a linebacker factory again. Wake was
downgraded because of a prior knee injury.
However, he had one of the best workouts in the draft.
Wake ran a 4.13 short shuttle, which is better than some
of the quick running backs in the draft, had an amazing
45.5" vertical jump, and a 10'10" broad jump.
Oh yeah, he also has a good motor, and good football
instincts.
|
|
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Butler |
FS/CB |
4.49 |
1.63 |
4.01 |
|
6.71 |
16 |
44" |
10'8" |
18 |
Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Butler had
a terrific workout. He has excellent speed and quickness,
and is a good athlete. He is a also a safety who is
aggressive against the run, and has experience in coverage as a
corner. A big risk-reward prospect who I would bet on.
However, he needs to kept at safety (or corner in the nickel)
and not drafted to be groomed as a starting corner.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Butler
gets his mention in my Senior Bowl game analysis because of one
really nice play, where he anticipated a pass, broke on the
ball, beat the receiver to the spot, and grabbed an
interception. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Wallace |
OT |
5.12 |
|
4.55 |
|
7.86 |
26 |
32" |
8'8" |
18 |
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Wallace is
a good developmental project. He showed better strength
than expected during workouts. Could develop into a good
reserve, decent starter. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Grant |
RB |
4.45 |
1.57 |
4.14 |
|
7.10 |
17 |
33.5" |
9'7" |
26 |
NFLFans.com
reports: Grant has good size with good speed, and
runs well between the tackles. However, he goes down easy,
is not a good blocker, and has poor hands for catching.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET
reports: Grant is a fast back with good strength.
While he won't be a starting caliber NFL running back, he could
be a good backup. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Ferri |
SS |
4.61 |
1.59 |
4.16 |
|
7.08 |
20 |
35.5" |
9'6" |
18 |
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Ferri
started his football career as a running back. Last year
he showed excellent improvement and was a leader on defense.
He is currently better as an in-the-box safety rather than a
safety used in coverage, but is still fairly new to safety and
should get better. Ferri will be a very good special teams
player, and could develop into a good backup safety. |
2005
TEAM NEEDS PRIOR TO FREE AGENCY AND THE DRAFT
Jay Goldberg of
90FootballLinks.NET reports:
major
need
need
position
possible
need, depth needed
no real need
Key UFA: Legree DE/DT, Christie K, Dayne RB, Palmer QB,
Warner QB (soon)
Key RFA: Rivers TE, Griesen LB (5th)
NOTE - RFA COMPENSATION AT MINIMUM TENDER
QB: With
Warner set to leave in free agency, and Palmer not a true #2,
the Giants will need to find a reliable backup quarterback for
manning in the offseason.
RB: Let
Ron Dayne go, please. He was a mistake to draft (I called
it at the time of selection). Mike Cloud is also an UFA so
the Giants will need to address running back depth. With a
deep draft at running back, look for the Giants to take one on
day two of the draft.
WR: This
is a major need for the Giants. Toomer and Hilliard have
seen better days, and Carter can't stay healthy. The
back-end of their roster at wide receiver, however, is fine.
Ponder and Tryee are excellent special team players and are
solid four and five wideouts, and Taylor has some promise and
could be a good number three.
TE: Shockey
and Shiancoe are good and fine respectively. If Rivers, a
RFA, is resigned they are set.
OL: Where
to start. The Giant's line is very pedestrian.
Outside of the rookie Snee, I could envision a complete
makeover. That's not saying that Petitgout, Dhiel,
Whittle, et all are terrible, but they all could be improved
upon. At a minimum, I would look for a stud left tackle
and a center. Hmmm, maybe a right tackle and left
guard too. Well, you get the picture.
DL: If
Strahan makes it back, the Giants are set at end. At
tackle, the Giants can use another body to push (replace?)
Joseph, who has been a disappointment.
LB: The
Giants like their linebackers better than I do. They could
use an upgrade across the board, including the strong side
currently manned by Carlos Emmons. Lewis played okay in
the middle and may grow into a solid starter, but that's no sure
thing. Griesen looked overmatched in the middle, but
played pretty good on the weak side. However, he is a RFA
with only a 5th round pick as compensation and it only takes one
team to love him to force the Giants into a tough decision on
whether or not to match a big offer.
DB: The
Wills are fine at corner, and Wilson was a rookie find at strong
safety. I also like Frank Walker as a nickel corner.
However, Williams was not a good free safety. He is better
strong safety, but Wilson is the Giant's future at the position.
Therefore, the Giants need to find a starting free safety.
ST: Christie
is an UFA, so the Giants will need to sign a kicker, whether
it's Christie or someone else. I like Ponder on kick
returns, and Jones is okay returning punts. Tryee is as
good as it gets as a special teams cover guy.
|
2004
COLLEGE DRAFT
| The Giants made a bold move to grab Eli
Manning. Time will tell if they overpaid or not.
Personally, I feel the compensation was fair, but unnecessary.
Big Ben Roethlisberger should be as good as, if not better,
than Manning long term. If the Giants stayed at four and
drafted the big gunslinger, they would have been able to add
more players to their roster and still ended up with a
franchise quarterback. In round two the Giants drafted
the father of the head coach's grandchild. Think there
will be pressure on the kid (Snee) to marry his girlfriend?
And what happens if he has no skill and is danger of being
cut? There goes the child support! That will
probably not happen; Snee is a solid player who should have a
long, productive NFL career. I don not understand the
selection of Torbor. The Giants had their choice of any
player not drafted in day one and selected a defensive
end-outside linebacker 'tweener. He may have upside as a
pass rusher, but I would have gone with OT Nat Dorsey.
Wilson was an excellent pick in round five. He was not
in my four-round value chart because of the position he plays,
not because of talent. Strong safeties are often
overlooked in the college draft. Wilson could be a good
starter, maybe even some time this year, with Williams moving
back to free safety and Stoutmire moving to the bench.
Taylor is certainly worth a shot in round six. He has
made remarkable progress coming off a major knee injury,
running a 4.49 forty, five months after ACL surgery. The
problem was that before his injury he was up-and-down, at
times looking like a star in the making, and other times
dropping catchable balls. Strojny has potential, but will need
time to develop. Hilton may have been the steal of the
draft in the seventh round. A boom-or-bust type from a
small school, Hilton has one of the best combinations of
strength, speed and athleticism of all the defensive ends
available in the draft. I like his potential much more
than I like Torbor's. In fact, I would not have batted
an eye if the Giants led off day two by selecting Hilton.
I had a third round grade on this player. That let's you
know that I am firmly in the boom, not bust, category when it
comes to projecting Hilton's NFL success. As far as free
agents go, the Giants did not land any players that I felt
were overlooked values on draft day(s). Three to watch,
however, are: QB Jared Lorenzen, a big man with
a big arm who could develop into a quality backup for Manning;
Curtis DeLoatch a versatile defensive back with good return
skills; and WR Chris Davis who has size and speed. One
last comment. While Nick Greisen's time has come, and he
should be a quality middle linebacker, he is a young unproven
starter and I would have come out of draft day with a player
to both push him, and be on hand in case he doesn't develop as
projected. |
PLAYER/
TEAM NEWS PRIOR TO DRAFT
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE DRILL |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Manning |
6-4¾,
216 |
4.90 |
- |
- |
- |
- |
Manning
Mississippi
#1 ranked QB by Jaybird
|
Len
Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: Eli Manning of
Mississippi checked in at 6-feet-4 1/2 and 221 pounds (at
Combine)
Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports:
Manning's workout was scripited by Larry Kennan, the
same man who did Drew Henson's workout in Houston. Manning did
not run or do any jumping -- he just threw. His targets were
current NFL free agents James McKnight and Kevin Lockett. He was
very impressive, threw with great velocity and was very accurate
with his passes. However, the consensus seemed to be that he was
not as accurate as Peyton, who is extremely accurate. It was
also said that Manning moves better in person than he does on
tape. To no one's surprise, people left this workout feeling
that he has the chance to be a franchise QB. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Snee |
G |
6.02.6,
314 |
5.07 |
1.68 |
4.66 |
7.75 |
29 |
30½" |
8-8 |
Snee
Boston College
#3 ranked OG by Jaybird
|
Nolan
Nawrocki of ProFootballWeekly.com reports: Snee, who
was offered scholarships by Wisconsin and Virginia Tech to be a
defensive lineman after registering 47 sacks in high school,
ultimately decided on Boston College because he liked playing
offense. But the junior brings a defensive mentality to the
offensive line. He is a tough, nasty, extremely aggressive run
blocker who ranks among the top three guards in the draft. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Torbor |
DE |
6-2
3/8, 254 |
4.63 |
- |
- |
- |
16 |
- |
- |
Torbor
Auburn
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
NFLFans.com
reports: Torbor is relentless
in going after the QB and has excellent speed to be a force in
this area. He has good instincts, athleticism, speed, and
very long arms. He has excellent upside. However, hr is
another DE who may find himself either a situational pass rusher
or an outside 3-4 LB. He needs to add additional strength and
mass and improve his techniques against the run; he is too one
dimensional as is. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Taylor |
SS |
6-0,
199 |
4.41 |
4.22 |
- |
6.33 |
16 |
34½" |
10-1 |
Wilson
Tennessee
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
NFLFans.com
reports: Wilson is definitely a solid pick if you can
get him on day two. Smart player and quick learner. Jumped right
into the Volunteers backfield as if he had been the Vols' SS for
years. Great senior season. |
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Taylor |
6-0.6,
208 |
4.49 |
- |
- |
- |
- |
23 |
- |
- |
Taylor
Texas A&M
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
Bryan
Dietzler of NFLFans.com reports: Taylor
was impressive with 40 times of 4.49 & 4.53 only 5 months
after ACL surgery. Taylor is a hot and cold player who can
have a great game one week and a bad one the next. Taylor does
posses good size and pretty good speed and can sometimes stretch
the defense and make big plays. He is the ability to adjust
quickly to the ball and uses his body well to block out
defenders. He also has the speed to gain separation from
defenders but can sometimes get pushed out of his route. Taylor
is also not afraid to go up high to catch the pass and can out
jump most defenders. However, Taylor has a habit of
dropping passes when it counts most, but he did improve upon
that in his last season with the Aggies. He suffered a knee
injury in 2002 but he seems to have gotten over that problem. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Strojny |
T |
6-7
1/8, 322 |
5.40 |
- |
4.95 |
8.43 |
- |
- |
- |
Strojny
Duke
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
Nolan
Nawrocki of ProFootballWeekly.com reports: OT Strojny
arrived at Duke with a 215-pound bench press, but he has gotten
bigger and stronger every year and made huge strides as he has
matured physically. He’s very athletic for his size and is
rising up draft boards because of his athleticism.
NFLFans.com reports: A good
late round pick up for a developmental type player or an
excellent undrafted free agent to add to your roster after the
draft is completed. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Hilton |
DE |
6.03.3,
267 |
4.52 |
1.59 |
4.48 |
7.99 |
31 |
36½" |
10-3 |
Hilton
Hampton
#7 ranked DE by Jaybird
|
NFLFans.com
reports: DE Hilton was very impressive workouts at
the combine. Stock is rising. |
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE DRILL |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Lorenzen |
6-3
3/8, 288 |
4.90 |
4.44 |
7.08 |
26" |
7-8 |
Lorenzen
Kentucky
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
Len
Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: Jared Lorenzen,
QB, Kentucky: Kentucky quarterback Jared Lorenzen weighed in at
a whopping 288 pounds and that isn't good for a guy most scouts
felt was only a borderline prospect to begin with. There is no
denying Lorenzen's ability to zip the ball in the 18- to 20-yard
range but much of his productivity came earlier in his career,
when the Wildcats were basically running a run-and-shoot type
offense under then-head coach Hal Mumme. The mammoth Lorenzen is
a classic streak-shooter, has suspect arm strength on some of
the deeper throws, and is given to bouts of petulance. Does he
possess some talent? Yeah. Should he have even been invited
here? Some scouts think not.
InsideTheLeague.com
reports: Kentucky QB Jared Lorenzen
did not go through workouts at the NFL Combine, but he did take
part in throwing drills. He didn't help his cause, though, as
his arm strength was only decent and his weight remains a
concern. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| DeLoatch |
CB-FS |
6-1.8,
210 |
4.55 |
- |
- |
- |
11 |
35" |
- |
DeLoatch
North Car A&T
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
Eric
Edholm of ProFootballWeekly.com reports:
Under the radar - FS Curtis
DeLoatch, North Carolina A&T — Some scouts project
DeLoatch to become a huge (6-2, 214) cornerback on the next
level, but others see him as a rangy safety who runs and covers
very well in space. The big knock on him is his hitting and
run-stopping ability, but his great combination of size, speed
and athletic ability is too good for some team picking late to
overlook. He also has experience returning punts. |
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Davis
(WR) |
6-3,
187 |
4.40 |
- |
4.29 |
11.97 |
7.17 |
- |
36" |
9-7 |
TEAM NEWS/NEEDS
PRIOR TO THE DRAFT
Jay Goldberg of
90FootballLinks.NET reports:
major
need
need
position
possible
need, depth needed
no real need
Key UFA: Bober C,
Griffin DT, Washington DE, Short LB, Jones LB, Brown CB
Key RFA: Peterson CB (3rd round), Palmer QB (5th round)
NOTE - RFA COMPENSATION AT MINIMUM TENDER
TRANSACTIONS: Washington resigned
QB:
Time for the Giants to
look for their QB of the future as Palmer doesn't appear to be
the answer. Collins is good but he has to be better than
last year to warrant carrying his cap figure.
RB:
Barber is not the type
of running back Coughlin usually likes. Dayne is a small
back in a big-back's body. That is why he hasn't seen the
field.
WR:
Toomer and Hilliard are
fine. Carter needs to stay healthy. He has good
speed and potential. The Giants drafted two players late
last year that look good in Tyree and Ponder.
TE:
Shockey! Enough said. However, Shiancoe will be a
good player too.
OL:
Big, big, big need area. Between injuries and inferior
talent the offensive line was a disaster for the Giants last
year. Even their better players on the line are
replaceable (i.e. no threat for a Pro Bowl in the near future).
DL:
Is the cup half-full or half-empty? Will Umenyiora
and Joseph develop in 2004? Should the team resign the
inconsistent, but tremendously talented, Griffin? The
knowns are: Strahan is a stud, Holmes is efficient and Hamilton
is retiring.
LB: Surprisingly for a New
York Giant team with a great tradition of linebackers, this is a
position in more disarray than one might think. Barrow had
a solid season, but how long can he continue at his current
pace? Jones and Short are UFAs and both are okay but
replaceable, although Short shows promise.
DB: If the two Wills (Allen
and Peterson) return healthy, cornerback is the strength of this
team. Also, Walker quietly had a good season for a rookie.
Safety is another story. Stoutmire is okay but
replaceable, and Williams has not developed into the stud at
strong safety as predicted.
ST: The
Giants kickers are just okay, but they may not be able to find
better; their return game needs an upgrade. Mitchell was a
disappointment, however, his replacement may already be on the
roster (Delvin Joyce).
ProFootballWeekly.com
reports: Don’t lock in Iowa OT Robert Gallery as
the fourth overall pick in the draft just yet. Although a
reliable offensive lineman is at the top of the Giants’ wish
list, New York might consider trading down if the right offer is
there, although that scenario appears unlikely unless one of the
two top QB prospects (Mississippi’s Eli Manning or Miami (Ohio)’s
Ben Roethlisberger) or WR Larry Fitzgerald falls to that spot.
One source close to the team thinks the Giants will sign at
least two free-agent linemen, opening up the possibility that
the team could go after a playmaking linebacker, a pass rusher
to deflect some of the attention away from DE Michael Strahan or
even a power running back in light of Tiki Barber fumbling
problems, which made him less dependable as a fourth-quarter
runner.
USAToday.com reports: The
Giants, by virtue of a dismal 4-12 record, will draft in the
fourth overall slot. They were tied with three other teams at
that record — San Diego, Oakland and Arizona — but their
overall opponents' won-lost percentage placed them last among
the quartet. They would be interested in one of the two
blue-chip quarterbacks, but there is a feeling both Eli Manning
and Ben Roethlisberger will be gone. They have expressed an
interest in Iowa offensive tackle Robert Gallery, Miami (Fla.)
safety Sean Taylor and Oklahoma defensive tackle Tommie Harris.
They have also indicated they might be willing to listen to
trade offers involving that fourth overall position, but
wouldn't want to slide too far down and would demand a second
round pick as the bonus.
www.nyfootballdigest.com reports: The
New York Giants were subject of wild trade rumors this week. The
Giants were said to be dangling QB Kerry Collins in front of
Marty Schottenheimer's face in exchange for the overall number
one pick in this year's draft. The rumor went on to say Ole'
Miss. QB Eli Manning was the obvious target if Collins is dealt.
While we do not feel this rumor has any real teeth, we are
keeping our eye on the situation.
Len Pasquarelli of NFL.com reports: The
Chargers will listen to trade offers and the bet here remains
that the New York Giants who privately gush over Manning, make a
big-time play to try to get to the top of the draft.
|
2003
COLLEGE DRAFT
| N.Y. Giants |
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
| 1 |
25 |
Joseph,
William |
DT |
6-5 |
308 |
Miami
(Fla.) |
| 2 |
56 |
Umenyiora,
Osi |
DE |
6-3 |
279 |
Troy
State |
| 3 |
91 |
Shiancoe,
Vishante |
TE |
6-4 |
251 |
Morgan
State |
| 4 |
123 |
Babers,
Roderick |
CB |
5-9 |
192 |
Texas |
| 5 |
160 |
Diehl,
David |
G |
6-6 |
310 |
Illinois |
| 6 |
199 |
Ponder,
Willie |
WR |
6-0 |
205 |
Southeast
Missouri State |
| 6 |
207 |
Walker,
Frank |
CB |
5-11 |
202 |
Tuskegee |
| 6 |
211 |
Tyree,
David |
WR |
6-1 |
197 |
Syracuse |
| 7 |
240 |
Drake,
Charles |
FS |
6-1 |
205 |
Michigan |
| 7 |
249 |
Lucier,
Wayne |
C |
6-4 |
301 |
Colorado |
| 7 |
255 |
Walter,
Kevin |
WR |
6-4 |
221 |
Eastern
Michigan |
| A |
2003
COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD
|

|
| The Giants got lucky when their man fell to
them in round one. Joseph fills a need and has the
potential to be a star in the NFL. I identified
Umenyiora as my sleeper at defensive end. The Giants
made me look bad since second-rounders can not really be
classified as sleepers, but they also made me look good by
making him a second-rounder. Obviously, I liked this
pick. Shiancoe gives the Giants a second tight end who
can stretch the field and make big plays down field.
Babers will compete with Ralph Brown and Kato Serwanga for
third corner. Diehl is a project but has the tools.
Ponder is a real sleeper. He will make the battle for
back-up receiver spots for the Giants very interesting.
I think Ponder will win one of those spots. Walker is
another interesting selection. He is a great athlete.
He is very fast. He is strong. He can be the
second coming of Jason Sehorn. I loved the Giants'
selections of Ponder and Walker in the sixth round. They
are gambling on getting playmakers rather than settling for
more-sure bench/role-player types. With the receivers on
the Giants' roster, Tryee will find it difficult to make the
team. Gotta love the Drake (couldn't resist that
Seinfeld line). Actually, Drake hits like a truck and
will be an excellent special teams player. He could also
grow into a NFL-caliber strong safety in time. Lucier
was a seventh-round steal. He won't be a Pro Bowler, but
he will be a solid starter/top-notch reserve. Walter is
the type of player teams like to keep on their roster.
He is a tireless worker and fearless on the field.
However, the Giants are suddenly deep at receiver so Walter
has his work cut out for him. But, he's a kid it's hard
to bet against. |
| Joseph |
Len
Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: Most college scouts agree
that the 2003 draft figures to continue a trend of being deep
at the defensive tackle position. The last two drafts produced
10 first-round defensive tackles and scouts feel there are a
dozen prospects in 2003 who should contribute for teams as
rookies. But don't ask the scouts to rate the defensive
tackles because, it seems, everyone has assessed the pool
differently. There is a consensus top five group, but no one
seems to have them in the same order. One tackle who seems to
be sliding a bit is William Joseph of Miami. A riser: Dewayne
Robertson of Kentucky, an underclass entry, but a guy who this
week ran in the 4.7s for his personal trainer while weighing
in the 315-pound range
Gil Brandt reports
William Joseph, DL, Miami, Fla., lifted 29 times at the
combine, a very good number.
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Len Pasquarelli of
ESPN.com reports, DT William Joseph (Miami), during Miami’s
Pro Day on Thursday, was clocked at 5.16-5.20 in the 40-yard
dash and had a 30” vertical jump. (AllProScouting had a
4.97-5.04 forty at pro day). |
| Umenyiora |
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Matt Gambill of
AllProScouting.com reports, Osi Umenyiora-DE pro day numbers:
6031, 278, 4.68 forty, 38" Vertical, 9'9"
Broad Jump, 4.33 short shuttle, 24 reps |
| Shiancoe |
ProFootballWeekly.com reports:
One NFC West scout said he was greatly disappointed to see
Morgan State TE Vishante Shiancoe’s name on the list of
attendees at the Combine. A lesser-known talent, Shiancoe (6-4 ¼,
251) is a physical specimen. Now that all 32 teams have seen
him firsthand, the secret is out. Shiancoe has been in
Indianapolis for a month, meeting several times a week with a
sports psychologist and personal trainer Shane White. It is
already paying off. Shiancoe was tops in his group with 28
reps of 225 pounds on the bench press, and he said that is not
his strong suit. Nope, that comes when he runs the 40-yard
dash Sunday. “I fully expect to get a 4.55 or a 4.5,” he
said. His best time was a 4.67 nearly four weeks ago.
Draft2003.com reports, Vishante Shiancoe,
Morgan State -- Ran 4.68 in the 40... at 6-foot-4, 251
pounds... did 28 reps of 225 pounds... improving blocker with
downfield pass-catching potential... also has three Pro Days
to impress scouts... |
| Babers |
PproFootballWeekly.com reports,
When asked where he might be taken or what he has heard about
his draft status, Texas CB Rod Babers said, "Not the
slightest idea. I have no clue. I have heard a lot of things,
and it’s a little frustrating, but all I can do is prove I
am worth taking (high)." An NFC West scout gave a better
idea as to where Babers might go: "I think he is a
first-day guy. He has been a little lost in the shuffle lately
… but I think he has good potential as a third (corner) as a
rookie."
Gil
Brandt of NFL.com reports, Babers
did not work out at the Pro Day, but did well at the Combine.
He did the position drills for the scouts on hand. He measured
up at 5-foot-8¾ and 192 pounds in Indianapolis. |
| Diehl |
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Matt Gambill of
AllProScouting.com reports, David Og, Diehl pro day numbers:
27 reps, 5.15 and 5.19 forty |
| Tyree |
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports, Tyree was 6-0 7/8, 200 pounds,
and ran the 40 for times of 4.59 and 4.53. He had a vertical
of 30½ inches, a long of 10-0, a short shuttle of 4.46 and a
three-cone drill of 7.25. Here is a guy who opened eyes --
he's been a very good kick blocker. |
| Drake |
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Gil
Brandt of NFL.com reports, SS Charles
Drake averaged 4.44 for his 40s and ran a 4.39 short shuttle
and 7.11 in the three-cone drill. He had a 32&$189;-inch
vertical jump and a 9-foot-7 long jump. |
| Lucier |
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Matt Gambill of
AllProScouting.com reports, Wayne Lucier-C, 6032, 298, 20
reps, 5.26 forty, 9 3/8" arm, 33 1/2" arm |
2002
COLLEGE DRAFT
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GRADE : C
Shockey makes sense
at number one if you plan to use your TE like KC uses
Gonzalez. A TE who catches around 70 balls for 900 yards
is worth a pick this high. However, 50 catches for 700
yards is not. will the Giants use Shockey enough for him
to get the better stats? Carter was a good pick in round
two. He is fast and can catch. However, I
personally would have liked Cliff Russell in this spot.
Hatch needs some developing but has potential. ILB
Griesen and WR Jones could also contribute.
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