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DRAFT PICKS
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| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
School |
Jay's
ranking |
Jay's
draft value |
| 1 |
6 |
Andre
Smith |
OT |
Alabama |
#4
OT |
Round
1 |
| 2 |
38 |
Rey
Maualuga |
WR |
Southern
Cal |
#1
ILB |
Round
1 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
| Maualuga
started slowly but came on very, very strong. He
dominated the later one-on-one drills and had a number of
very nice plays in the 11 on 11's. |
|
ONE
ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG |
| 6
- 3 |
Foster
1-1 Q Johnson 2-0 Nelson 0-2 Davis
2-0 Brown 1-0 |
|
|
Senior
Bowl Game |
Despite
one missed tackle, Maualuga was hard to miss on the field.
He forced a fumble and made a great read and tackle on a screen
pass. |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than
him. |
While
Maualuga is a top player on all draft boards, he is not getting
the attention he truly deserves. This is the type of kid
who can come in and be the centerpiece and identity for an
entire defense. He will be one of the best middle
linebackers in the league and will see multiple Pro Bowls before
his career is done. |
| 3 |
70 |
Michael
Johnson |
DE |
Georgia
Tech |
#6
DE |
Round
2 |
| 3 |
98 |
Chase
Coffman |
TE |
Missouri |
#5
TE |
Round
3 |
| 4 |
106 |
Jonathan
Luigs |
OC |
Arkansas |
#4
OC |
Round
3 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
| Made
nice block on run in 11 on 11's, but looked a bit
overmatched during the one-on-one drills. |
|
ONE
ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG |
| 1
- 8 |
Walker
1-1 Ayers 0-1 Irvin 0-2 Moala 0-2
Jerry 0-2 |
|
| 5 |
142 |
Kevin
Huber |
P |
Cincinnati |
#1
P |
Round
5 |
| 6 |
179 |
Morgan
Trent |
CB |
Michigan |
#19
CB |
Round
4 |
|
East
West Shrine Game |
Trent
had one shinning moment where he made a great play on the ball
to get an interception. |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
This
late addition had limited face time, but caught my eye a bit so
I wanted to see more. |
| 6 |
209 |
Bernard
Scott |
RB |
Abilene
Christian |
#11
RB |
Round
3 |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than
him. |
A
small school back to keep your eye on is Bernard Scott. He
tore it up at Abilene Christian rushing for over 2100 yards,
averaging over 8 yards a carry, and catching 47 balls for 826
yards (an average of almost 18 yards a catch, unheard of for a
running back). With that production, his workout was
important to see if he had the athletic ability to transfer
those skills to the NFL. He then proceeded to finish
8th in the forty, 4th in the broad jump, 1st in the three-cone,
and 1st in the short shuttle (tie) amongst running backs at the
Combine . Scott may need time to get acclimated, but this
is a kid to watch as he hits the NFL. |
| 7 |
215 |
Fui
Vakapuna |
FB/RB |
BYU |
NR |
7th/FA |
| 7 |
249 |
Clinton
McDonald |
DT |
Memphis |
#15
DT |
Round
5 |
| 7 |
252 |
Freddie
Brown |
WR |
Utah |
NR |
Off
my board |
| FA |
---- |
Quan
Cosby |
WR |
Texas |
#18
WR |
Round
4 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
Quietly,
Cosby had a very nice week. He didn't flash game-breaking
ability, but he made some excellent catches and showed good
hands. He also showed toughness in 11 on 11's holding on
to ball after big hit. |
| FA |
---- |
Colin
Dow |
OC |
Montana |
NR |
7th/FA |
| FA |
---- |
Marlon
Lucky |
RB |
Nebraska |
NR |
Late
Round Value |
|
East
West Shrine Game |
Lucky
looked fast, and was quick to the hole with a good burst.
He may not be an every-down back, but he could be a contributor
who makes big plays. Once again I need to see his times
since he did this in the Shrine Game, not the Senior Bowl. |
| FA |
---- |
Greg
Orton |
WR |
Purdue |
NR |
7th/FA |
| FA |
---- |
David
Richmond |
WR |
San
Jose State |
NR |
7th/FA |
| FA |
---- |
Dan
Skuta |
LB/DE |
Grand
Valley State |
NR |
7th/FA |
|
A
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2009
COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD
|
by
Jay Goldberg
|
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The
Bengals had a great draft. They addressed all their
major needs, especially if running back Bernard Scott can stay
out of trouble. They stole Mauagula and got very good
value with Trent, Luigs, Johnson and McDonald. The only
thing keeping their draft from getting the elusive perfect
score of A+ is that there is a bit more risk associated with A
Smith than with Monroe, and that while I like Coffman, I love
Nelson.
As
of this write-up, the Bengals added a number of college street
free agents to watch during preseason. The player I like
the best is Cosby who is a much better player than Brown who
the Bengals drafted in round seven.
DRAFT
PICKS
Andre
Smith scares me a bit. I had him as my fourth rated
offensive tackle, not the second rated tackle like the
Bengals. It isn't because of potential. It's
because something just doesn't quite add up. On tape, he
looks great. He especially looks strong. However,
he only lifted the bar 19 times. Running back Bernard
Scott, a 200 pound kid lifted the bar 20 times. Free
agent receiver, Quan Cosby, a 5'8.5", 198 pound receiver
did 28 reps. Smith was also out of the top third of
tackles available in the draft in terms of speed, quickness
and athleticism based on his workout numbers. Yet he
looks dominate on tape. I like the pick, but something
is gnawing at me.
Maualuga
was a steal in round two. I had a feeling he might fall
which is why he was on my list of players who will have a
better NFL career than many drafted higher than them. In
my opinion Maualuga was a top half of the first round
talent. He will be a force in the middle from day one,
has Pro Bowl talent, and will become the identity of the
Bengals' defense. The kid can hit! Oh, and Marvin
Lewis, forget starting him on the strong side, have him
replace Dhani Jones in the middle right away. A great
get by the Bengals.
All
you hear around Michael Johnson is that he is a boom or bust
prospect. Maybe that would have been true if a team
reached for him in round one. However, in round three he
is a boom or "fine for where he was drafted
prospect". Best case the kid puts it all together,
outplays his draft position, and becomes a good full time
starting end who gets double-digit sacks. Worst case he
becomes a valuable player in the nickel, getting quarterback
pressures and 6 to 8 sacks. That's fine value for the
third round, especially for the Bengals who badly need pass
rushers.
Coffman
is a big target with terrific hands who can make the tough
catch. He is not much of a blocker and doesn't have top
end speed for a tight end, but he will be a good target for
Palmer. While he was a solid pick here, personally, I
like Shawn Nelson more. Nelson isn't as tall but has more
upside as a blocker, can stretch the field and also has
terrific hands. The Bengals went for height over speed.
The
Bengals needed a center and got the best one available after
the big three (Wood, Mack, Unger). Luigs is not a
dominate one-on-one blocker, but is reliable within a blocking
scheme.
Huber
was the best punter in the draft class and the Bengals didn't
reach to grab him.
Trent
is an interesting prospect. He has good size, good
speed, good quickness and is a very good athlete.
However, he is rough around the edges and that may always be
the case. Trent has the look of a kid who will have some
moments that will make you believe he will be a top starter;
but, long term, will be best served as a valuable backup
corner and special teams player. Still he will have a
productive NFL career.
If
I thought the case of Morgan Trent was interesting, what does
that make the case of Bernard Scott? Scott comes into
the NFL with more off-the-field trouble than any other
prospect, but with the talent to be a top flight NFL running
back. Scott's troubles were not of the
annoyance-kind. They were of the serious-kind.
However, he immediately becomes the best running back on the Bengals'
roster (yes, better than Cedric Benson). He is fast,
quick, strong and athletic, and was extremely productive on
the field at
Abilene Christian. Even with all the runs in with the
law and coaches, a team taking a flyer on him in round three
wouldn't have caused me to bat an eye. The kid can be
that good.
Vakapuna
is a strong back who will have his hands full making this
team. To stick he will have to show he can be a force on
special teams and be a goal-line, short-yardage back.
Check
out the measureables of McDonald. He is very strong,
very quick and very athletic. I had a fifth round grade
on him, thinking he could be good at end in a 3-4 or at
under-tackle on a team that likes fast, athletic
tackles. Worst case this could he used as an inside pass
rusher in the nickel, and as mentioned previously, the Bengals
need to get better pressure on the quarterback.
McDonald had 7 sacks his senior year. Best case he adds
some bulk, retains his speed and quickness and grows into a
starter.
Brown
is a tall, slow-ish possession receiver who, at times, did not
show reliable hands. Receivers with his size and
understanding of the game have a chance, but he will have a
very, very tough time making the roster and is no lock for the
practice squad.
COLLEGE
STREET FREE AGENTS
Let's
see; smallish receiver, very tough, great hands, better on the
field than in workouts, sneaky fast, enters the league as an
undrafted free agent; sound like anyone you know? While
I don't think Cosby will be as good Wes Welker there are some
similarities. Look for Cosby to be the rookie receiver
in Bengals' camp who pushes for a roster spot.
Dow
has good short area speed and some explosion off the
ball. He is a candidate for the Bengals' practice squad.
Marlon
Lucky is the perfect storm in my mind when it comes to the
draft prospect analysis process. Lucky looked extremely
fast at the East West Shrine Game. Consider this tape
study. His workout showed only okay speed, both in the
forty as well as the 10 and 20 yard splits. So should
you go on tape and throw out the "numbers" as the
majority of tv talking heads preach; or should you be cautious
of the tape when the workout numbers do not support what you
are seeing with your own eyes? I believe that on
field performance must be backed up by reasonable workout
numbers (hence my concern for A Smith). Not that there
aren't exceptions. Even a lot of them. It's just
that I look at the draft in terms of probability and feel
better when everything lines up. In this case, Lucky was
a free agent, not even a late round pick, so his workout,
which didn't support his play East West Shrine Game, caused
him to fall out of the draft. So let's see what Lucky does on the
field against good competition, and don't be fooled
if he excels against third-stringers. All said, Lucky could
challenge for a roster spot (his speed wasn't terrible, just
not top shelf) and, worst case, should be on the Bengals'
practice squad.
Orton
is a more reliable version of Freddie Brown. Like Brown,
Orton has good size and is a possession receiver.
However, Orton is stronger and has better hands.
Richmond
was productive at San Jose State which earned him an invite to
the Combine. He wasn't expected to be a burner and he
wasn't, but he also didn't display good quickness and, while a
good athlete, wasn't as explosive an athlete as
expected. This caused him to go undrafted. He does
have some tools to work with so he could find his way onto the
practice squad. However, with Cosby and Orton on hand,
even that could be a tough task for him.
Skuta
was a defensive lineman in college that some (including me)
projected to outside linebacker in the 3-4 defense because of
his lack of size (249 pounds), his pass rush skills (11.5
sacks his senior year) and his nonstop pursuit (77 total
tackles). If he makes the Bengals it will be
as a pass rush specialist. |
For
chart below: red indicates workout number in top range at position in
draft
ARM-HAND
relative to position, for ranges see ranking pages for 2009 draft
LAST
NAME
at Combine |
FIRST
NAME |
SCHOOL |
HGT |
WGT |
ARM-
HAND |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT |
LONG |
3
CONE |
VERT |
BROAD |
| Smith |
Andre |
Alabama |
6'3.6" |
332 |
XL-L |
19 |
5.28 |
1.79 |
3.01 |
4.93 |
- |
7.88 |
25" |
7'10" |
| Maualuga |
Rey |
USC |
6'1.6" |
249 |
M-XL |
23 |
4.65 |
1.62 |
2.73 |
4.35 |
- |
- |
31" |
8'11" |
| Johnson |
Michael |
Geo
Tech |
6'6.7" |
266 |
L-L |
28 |
4.61 |
1.54 |
2.66 |
4.37 |
- |
7.42 |
38.5" |
10'8" |
| Coffman |
Chase |
Missouri |
6'5.6" |
245 |
L-L |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
| Luigs |
Jonathan |
Arkansas |
6'3.5" |
301 |
S-M |
26 |
5.07 |
1.78 |
2.90 |
4.79 |
- |
7.69 |
31" |
8'3" |
| Trent |
Morgan |
Michigan |
6'0.5" |
193 |
L-M |
23 |
4.43 |
1.50 |
2.59 |
4.01 |
11.07 |
|
38" |
10'7" |
| Scott |
Bernard |
Abl
Christian |
5'10.2" |
200 |
M-L |
21 |
4.44 |
1.53 |
2.62 |
4.08 |
11.01 |
6.82 |
36" |
10'5" |
| Vakapuna |
Fui |
BYU |
5'11.1" |
244 |
- |
29 |
4.83 |
1.64 |
2.82 |
4.40 |
- |
7.37 |
34" |
9'2" |
| McDonald |
Clinton |
Memphis |
6'1.6" |
283 |
- |
36 |
4.83 |
1.63 |
2.81 |
4.50 |
- |
7.25 |
38" |
10'1" |
| Brown |
Freddie |
Utah |
6'3" |
215 |
- |
- |
4.59 |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
| Turenne |
Woodny |
Louisville |
5'11.3" |
183 |
- |
12 |
4.49 |
1.51 |
2.60 |
4.39 |
- |
6.93 |
32.5" |
10'0" |
| Cosby |
Cosby |
Texas |
5'8.5" |
196 |
S-L |
28 |
4.44 |
1.52 |
2.63 |
4.34 |
- |
7.28 |
34.5" |
- |
| Dow |
Colin |
Montana |
6'4.7" |
305 |
- |
22 |
5.20 |
1.72 |
2.98 |
5.03 |
- |
7.59 |
30" |
8'7" |
| Lucky |
Marlon |
Nebraska |
5'11.3" |
216 |
S-XL |
18 |
4.53 |
1.56 |
2.61 |
- |
- |
7.10 |
33.5" |
9'6" |
| Orton |
Greg |
Purdue |
6'2.5" |
207 |
L-L |
22 |
4.61 |
1.60 |
2.62 |
4.33 |
- |
6.90 |
38" |
10'5" |
| Richmond |
David |
San
Jose St |
6'1.6" |
197 |
L-L |
- |
4.59 |
1.63 |
2.65 |
4.42 |
- |
- |
36.5" |
- |
| Skuta |
Dan |
Grand
Val St |
6'2.5" |
249 |
- |
20 |
4.72 |
1.60 |
2.69 |
4.42 |
- |
- |
35" |
9'9" |
2009 NEEDS PRIOR TO DRAFT AND FREE
AGENCY
Major need
Need
Upgrade possible
Depth/possible need
Not a need
| QB |
Assuming Palmer comes
back strong from injury, this is a strong unit for the Bengals.
Even if UFA Fitzpatrick leaves in free agency, Rowe, a player I
like is sitting in the wings to take his place as Palmer's
backup. I am not as high on Carson's kid brother Jordan. |
| RB |
This has to be one of the
worst running back situations in the NFL. Perry hasn't and
doesn't look like he'll ever cut it as a starter. Watson
is a solid backup/emergency starter, but no more. This
situation is so dire that they have made resigning UFA Benson, a
priority. Benson had some good games, but isn't a runner
to build your team around. |
| WR |
Houshmandzadeh is an UFA
an may be hard to resign. Ocho Cinco fell off the map, but
could re-emerge when Palmer gets back. Henry is talented
but with his off the filed troubles is not a player you can rely
on. As far as their two rookies go, I like Caldwell a lot
and expect him to take a big step next year, but I have some
doubts Simpson. Look for the Bengals to bring in a veteran
receiver to push to start and hopefully (if Caldwell comes thru)
be their third wideout. |
| TE |
Last year the team signed
Utecht in free agency. Injuries caused him to miss much of
the season but he could be a good receiving tight end.
Kelly is more blocker than receiver, but his blocking fell off a
bit last year. Upgrades all around could be looked at in
the offfseason. |
| OL |
The Bengals have some
good pieces and some questions along their offensive line.
Cutting to the chase, a center and a tackle could be secured
during the draft. |
| DL |
The Bengals have given
out some long term contracts to linemen recently but the only
one who I would have signed to the contract he got was defensive
tackle Peko. The Bengals other starting tackle, Thornton
is an UFA and will probably not be resigned. Jason Shirley
is a young player waiting in the wings who I like. At end
Odom and Geathers have nice contracts, get hurt too often, and
get too few sacks. In a 4-3 you need at least one
defensive ends who has to be doubled every play, and still gets
double-digit sacks. That's not Odom. That's not
Geathers. |
| LB |
I like this unit,
although adding a young middle linebacker is advisable.
However, Rivers, Jeanty, Johnson and even Blackstock and
Henderson give the team quality and depth on the outside.
Jones, a solid old pro mans the middle. |
| DB |
This is another good
young unit. Hall and Joseph are a good young tandem of
cornerbacks, and Jones played well as the third corner.
Ndukwe is a keeper at stong safety, and White showed promise at
free safety. Look for the Bengals to bring in competition
for White. |
| ST |
Graham is an UFA so a
kicker will need to be secured in the offseason. Larsen is
a steady and Caldwell is a good kick return man but an upgrade
at punt returner could be looked for this offseason. |
2008
DRAFT PICKS
links go to
NFL.com website
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Jay's ranking |
Jay's draft value |
| 1 |
9 |
Keith
Rivers |
OLB |
6'2.2" |
241 |
USC |
#1 OLB |
Round 1 |
| 2 |
46 |
Jerome
Simpson |
WR |
6'1.6" |
199 |
C Carolina |
#19 WR |
Round 4 |
| 3 |
77 |
Pat
Sims |
DT |
6'2" |
310 |
Auburn |
#7 DT |
Round 2/Round 3 |
| 3 |
97 |
Andre
Caldwell |
WR |
6'0.2" |
204 |
Florida |
#7 WR |
Round 2 |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher
than him.
|
This
is a strange draft for wide receivers. There are more
questions about the first round receivers who will be counted
on as #1 receivers than there is for the receivers who will be
solid number two or threes. Caldwell is the best of the
#2's. During Senior Bowl week he continually blew bye
corners in practice. He has very good hands, and
terrific speed and quickness. I have no doubts about him
developing into a good #2 receiver. |
| 5 |
145 |
Jason
Shirley |
DT |
6.5.1" |
329 |
Fresno St |
#12 DT |
Round 3/Round 4 |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher
than him.
|
Shirley
is a monster of a man who is a very good run-stuffer. He
had off-the-field issues which limited him to 3 games in 2007
(was suspended). However, a 330 pound player who runs a
5.0 forty, has a short shuttle time equal to Felix Jones,
Rashard Mendenhall and DeSean Jackson, and a 3 cone time like
Devin Thomas doesn't grow on trees. If the he gets
drafted onto a veteran team with good discipline, he should
develop into a top NFL nose tackle. |
| 6 |
177 |
Corey
Lynch |
FS/SS |
6.0.3" |
202 |
Appl State |
|
Late Round Value |
| 6 |
207 |
Matt
Sherry |
TE |
6'3.7" |
255 |
Villanova |
|
Free Agent |
| 7 |
244 |
Angelo
Craig |
DE/OLB |
6'4" |
252 |
Cincinnati |
|
Late Round Value |
| 7 |
246 |
Mario
Urrutia |
WR |
6'5.3" |
232 |
Louisville |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
James Blair |
OT/OG |
6'3" |
323 |
W Michigan |
|
Late Round
Value/Free Agent |
| FA |
|
Maurice Purify |
WR |
6'3.1" |
224 |
Nebraska |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Tim Bugg |
LS/FB |
6'0.2" |
257 |
Indiana |
|
Late Round
Value/Free Agent |
| FA |
|
Simeon Castille |
FS/CB |
6'0.3" |
195 |
Alabama |
#9 FS |
Round 4/Round 5 |
| FA |
|
Travis Brown |
WR |
6'2.1" |
192 |
New Mexico |
|
Late Round Value |
|
The
Bengals draft was excellent, however, they could have used a
starting caliber defensive end in the draft because free agent
signee Odom is injury-prone and Geathers hasn't made a
believer of me yet. Hence the A- instead of an A.
My initial response to their second round pick of Simpson was
that it was a mistake and they should have gone with Laws or
Caldwell. Having come away with Sims and Shirley at
defensive tackle later, and getting Caldwell in round three,
looking back I now believe that defensive end Campbell or
Groves would have been a better pick than Simpson.
However, even with the Simpson pick and no defensive end they
still get an A- which shows you how much I basically liked
this draft.
DRAFT
PICKS
Rivers
is a player this team badly needed. While the team has
had some good players at linebacker in the recent past, Rivers
represents a player that can be a stable star to build around
and provide this defense with an identity. He is strong,
fast, a great athlete and a terrific football player.
While Ellis may have been the player the Bengals wanted to
fall to them in round one, in the long run they may be happier
that he was off the board so that they could select this
talented linebacker.
Simpson
was a reach in round two. The fact that the receiver I
thought the team should have taken instead was available for
them in round three (Caldwell) is a factor when grading this
draft. If the Bengals took Caldwell here and Simpson in
round three, then I would have agreed with the Caldwell pick
and felt the Simpson was okay. However, looking in
hindsight (knowing Caldwell would be available for them in
round three) as previously mentioned defense ends Campbell or
Groves would have looked mighty nice at this spot.
Simpson is a very god athlete with good, not great speed.
However he has below-average quickness. With Bengals
success at drafting receivers I'm not taking too much off
their grade for this selection, but it wouldn't surprise me if
Simpson never develops into anything more than a #4 receiver.
Sims
was a solid selection in round three. He has good short
area speed which allows him to get penetration against the
pass. He is also okay against the run but needs to get
stronger to become dominate.;
Caldwell
was a steal towards the end of round three. He is very
fast, quick, athletic and has good hands. He will be a
good #3 to Chad and T.J. and could be a top #2 if Chad moves
on. He is a better receiver and the better prospect than
Simpson.
Shirley
is a very intriguing prospect. Selected by any other
team I would be ecstatic. However, he comes with some
off the field concerns and the Bengals may not be the best
place for as player like that to tote the line. On the
field Shirley provides the Bengals with a very unique talent.
A big kid at about 6'5" and 330 pounds, he has the
quickness and agility of a top skill player. He is also
surprisingly athletic for someone his size. He could be
the dominate inside player the Bengals need. They just
have to make sure he stays out of trouble off the field.
Lynch
is a quick safety who changes direction very well. He
will be a top special teams player. However, he may
never be more than a nickel safety.
Matt
Sherry is a player the Bengals had rated more highly than me.
He catches well, and has the potential to grow as a blocker,
but is not the prospect Daniel Coates is and may have trouble
making the final roster.
Craig
was a good value pick in round seven. He has a chance to
be a pass rush specialist, but his lack of speed is a concern.
Urrutia
is a tall receiver with good speed for his size and good
hands. However, he is very one-dimensional as a
down-the-field receiver since he has below average quickness
and cutting ability. Still, he is a good candidate for
the practice squad and if his footwork can be improved, the
Bengals may have something down the line.
COLLEGE
STREET FREE AGENTS
Blair
played tackle in college but projects best inside in the NFL.
He could find his way onto the practice squad and be a
verasatile sub down the line.
Purify
has a decent combo of size, speed and hands. However,
with the number of receivers in Bengals' camp may have a hard
time getting noticed. He is also a player with off the
field concerns and may not be worth the risk as a bottom of
the roster receiver.
Bugg
is one of the best long snappers in the draft.
I
was surprised Castille went undrafted. He is a versatile
defensive back who can play corner or safety. He is a
good cover man but has speed, quickness and athleticism
measureables that fit better at safety. However, he will
need to get stronger to play safety in the NFL. If
Castille hits the weight room, the Bengals could have a
quality free safety who can cover. He is perfect to hide
for a year on the practice squad while getting him
"pumped up" to play safety.
Travis
Brown is yet another wide receiver with the skill set to be a
bottom of the roster receiver.
|
red
indicates workout number in top range at position in draft
(blue
college name indicates workout #'s include Pro Day numbers)
COMBINE
YES |
FIRST
NAME |
SCHOOL |
HEIGHT |
WEIGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT |
LONG |
3
CONE |
VERT |
BROAD |
| Rivers |
Keith |
USC |
6'2.2" |
241 |
24 |
4.58 |
1.56 |
2.65 |
4.38 |
NA |
NA |
42" |
10'7" |
| Simpson |
Jerome |
C
CAROLINA |
6'1.6" |
199 |
NA |
4.43 |
1.55 |
2.57 |
4.52 |
NA |
7.08 |
37.5" |
11'4" |
| Sims |
Pat |
AUBURN |
6'2" |
310 |
20 |
5.09 |
1.74 |
2.91 |
4.80 |
NA |
7.67 |
30.5" |
7'11" |
| Caldwell |
Andre |
FLORIDA |
6'0.2" |
204 |
18 |
4.31 |
1.55 |
2.55 |
4.11 |
NA |
6.75 |
36.5" |
10'4" |
| Collins |
Anthony |
KANSAS |
6'5" |
317 |
26 |
5.35 |
1.90 |
3.14 |
4.87 |
NA |
7.71 |
22.5" |
8'1" |
| Shirley |
Jason |
FRESNO
ST |
6'5.1" |
329 |
25 |
5.02 |
1.72 |
2.92 |
4.18 |
NA |
7.16 |
34" |
9'7" |
| Lynch |
Corey |
APPL
STATE |
6'0.3" |
202 |
13 |
4.58 |
1.54 |
2.62 |
3.99 |
NA |
6.71 |
34.5" |
9'3" |
| Sherry |
Matt |
VILLANOVA |
6'3.7" |
255 |
24 |
4.67 |
1.61 |
2.71 |
4.59 |
NA |
7.18 |
32.5" |
10'0" |
| Craig |
Angelo |
CINCINNATI |
6'4" |
252 |
21 |
5.07 |
1.65 |
2.84 |
4.57 |
NA |
7.38 |
34.5" |
10'4" |
| Urrutia |
Mario |
LOUISVILLE |
6'5.3" |
232 |
16 |
4.53 |
1.59 |
2.63 |
4.44 |
NA |
7.07 |
35" |
9'7" |
| Blair |
James |
W
MICHIGAN |
6'3" |
323 |
28 |
5.28 |
1.82 |
3.03 |
5.33 |
NA |
8.34 |
23.5" |
8'7" |
| Purify |
Maurice |
NEBRASKA |
6'3.1" |
224 |
NA |
4.53 |
1.55 |
2.61 |
4.29 |
NA |
6.95 |
28.5" |
9'9" |
| Bugg |
Tim |
INDIANA |
6'0.2" |
257 |
17 |
5.12 |
1,.71 |
2.99 |
NA |
NA |
NA |
NA |
NA |
| Castille |
Simeon |
ALABAMA |
6'0.3" |
195 |
8 |
4.56 |
1.57 |
2.65 |
4.36 |
NA |
7.07 |
36" |
9'11" |
| Brown |
Travis |
NEW
MEXICO |
6'2.1" |
192 |
13 |
4.49 |
1.53 |
2.57 |
4.38 |
NA |
7.18 |
34" |
10'4" |
2008 NEEDS
PRIOR TO DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY
CIN
Major
Need Need
Upgrade Depth
Need Not
a Need
| QB |
Palmer
is a top tier quarterback. I like Rowe's potential.
He should grow into a solid backup. In the meantime,
there are teams that have a worse situation than Ryan
Fitzpatrick. |
| RB |
The
word I would use for the Bengals' running back situation is
mediocre, barring a major return to form by Rudi Johnson.
Watson is an overachiever who is a perfect backup. One
who can step in and play well when the starter gets hurt and
one who catches the ball well. Perry cannot stay
healthy, and it's time to cut the chord. Dorsey and
Irons are maybes. The Bengals need to draft a homerun
threat at running back; best case scenario, one who starts;
but a rotation player will be fine. |
| WE |
A
difficult position to grade. On the surface this is a
major strength. However, the great chemistry with
Palmer and his starting receivers seemed to take a hit both on
and off the field. Third receiver Henry is a mistake
away for a year suspension. The rest of the Bengals'
receivers are fine bottom of the roster/special team
performers, but are not top tier talents. Personally, I
would add a receiver with the potential to play a big role in
the offense if needed. |
| TE |
This
position has been a "red" category the last three
years, so a "blue" is an improvement. The
improvement is because of Coates, a free agent I predicted
would stick. Kelly is a good blocker, but as a receiver,
is not a player defenses have to account for. I still
believe a major threat at tight end would put this passing
offense in the Cowboys/Colts class. However, with Coates
they may have at least found a solid receiving tight end. |
| OL |
Injuries
hurt and helped the Bengals' line in 2007. They found
some solid players, but there line took some time to gel.
With Andrews a free agent and Anderson coming back from
injury, a tackle needs to be added for depth. An
versatile inside lineman, with size, who can play guard and
center would also help. |
| DL |
Smith
is a free agent, and both he and the Bengals may be better off
if he moves on. He plays hard, but hasn't been able to
be a consistent pass rush threat in this defense.
Geathers is worth a another look at the other end. At
tackle, Peko is a keeper, but Thornton should be a rotation
player at tackle, not a starter. Robinson is also a free
agent and he is a capable backup all along the line.
Net, net, the Bengals need a starting end, a starting tackle,
and a backup end. |
| LB |
Injuries
wiped out this position during the season, free agency might
do the same this offseason. Look for Brooks to be given
first shot in the middle; and Marshall (if he returns healthy)
or Johnson (if he resigns) to play on the weak side.
Jones (also a free agent) is another option on the weak side,
but he is better served as a quality backup. Jeanty and
Henderson (coming off injury) are the current possibilities on
the strong side. The Bengals need to bring in at least
one linebacker who could start (strong side), and, possibly
two (maybe weak side). If Johnson leaves, a backup
middle linebacker could also be added. However, a
sleeper on their roster I like is Corey Mays. |
| DB |
I
like the young players the Bengals have on this unit.
Hall and Jefferson is a good young corner tandem. Ndukwe
and White played well at safety at the end of the year.
They will make Jackson expendable, and will soften the blow if
Williams leaves in free agency. O'Neal is a good nickel,
but he wants to be released so he can get an opportunity to
start elsewhere. Depending on how the roster shakes out
a corner and safety for depth and competition could be added. |
| ST |
The
Bengals return men are okay, but of a dangerous game changer
can be brought in to add a dimension to the team. |
2007
DRAFT PICKS
links go to
NFL.com website
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Jay's ranking |
Jay's draft value |
| 1 |
18 |
Hall,
Leon |
CB |
5-11 |
193 |
Michigan |
# 2 CB |
Round 1 |
| 2 |
49 |
Irons,
Kenny |
RB |
5-11 |
195 |
Auburn |
# 4 RB |
Round 2 |
| 4 |
114 |
White,
Marvin |
FS |
6-1 |
199 |
Texas
Christian |
|
Late Round Value |
| 5 |
151 |
Rowe,
Jeff |
QB |
6-5 |
226 |
Nevada |
# 8 QB |
Round 4 |
| 6 |
187 |
Toeaina,
Matt |
DT |
6-2 |
307 |
Oregon |
|
Late Round Value |
| 7 |
230 |
Santucci,
Dan |
G |
6-3 |
296 |
Notre
Dame |
# 9 OG |
Round 4 |
| 7 |
253 |
Ndukwe,
Nedu |
SS |
6-2 |
206 |
Notre
Dame |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Andrews, Bryan |
DE |
6-5 |
262 |
Wake Forest |
|
Off My Board |
| FA |
|
Coates, Daniel |
TE |
6-3 |
253 |
BYU |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Everett, Earl |
ILB |
6-3 |
238 |
Florida |
#11 ILB |
Round 4 |
| FA |
|
Jackson, Xzavie |
DE |
6-3 |
278 |
Missouru |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Muncy, Matt |
ILB |
6-1 |
242 |
Ohio |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Siskowic, Cameron |
OLB |
6-2 |
228 |
Illinois State |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Wright, T.J. |
CB |
5-10 |
177 |
Ohio |
|
Off My Board |
|
The
Bengals needed to come away from the draft with an improved
defense. I'm not sire they did enough. In terms of
value, I like the selection of Santucci in round seven. I
had a fourth round grade on him. I also like the signing
of Coates in free agency. He could stick.
Hall
is going to be a very good NFL cornerback. Long term he
will be one-half of a solid pair of starting corners with
Joseph. However, even though he fell to the top of round
two, and I heard he was off the Bengals draft board, defensive
tackle Alan Branch is a player the Bengals really needed.
He would have been a run-stuffer and kept lineman off the
Bengals middle linebacker whether Brooks or the returning
(possibly, but probably not) Thurman. Irons was worthy of
his spot in the draft, although I liked Pittman better.
However (there's that word again), a running back in round two
might be a luxury for the Bengals even though Perry can't stay
healthy and Johnson is getting a lot of wear and tear on his
body. As a backup running back, the one slight concern for
Irons is that he did not catch a lot of balls in college.
White gives the Bengals something their other safeties do not.
A monster hitter who is best playing in the box. He will
also be a special teams demon. If I were drafting for
Cincinnati, my first three picks would have been Branch,
defensive end Tim Crowder, and cornerback Fred Bennett.
Jeff Rowe is one of the better developmental quarterbacks in the
draft. He has good feet in the pocket, has a good arm ,
and is an accurate thrower. He could be a nice long term
backup for Palmer, who could bring draft pick compensation to
the Bengals down the line if a teams wants to trade for him as a
starter. I like the Bengals' selection of Toeaina in round
six. He is an overachieving with good size and strength
who can stop the run. On other teams I had him pegged as a
rotation player whose strength was playing the run. For
the Bengals he might just have a more expanded role. He
has a chance to be a late round find for Cincinnati. This
is a good spot for him. While Santucci was terrific value
in round seven (I had a fourth round grade on him), he doesn't
have the bulk the Bengals usually like in their guards. I
thought he would go to a zone blocking team. Ndukwe could
be a good backup safety. He is a heady player who doesn't
make mistakes but his upside is limited. With Washington
gone and Chris Henry, well Chris Henry, I thought the Bengals
could have used wide receiver for depth. At this spot I
would have drafted Brandon Myles of West Virginia. I
believe he can be a solid backup receiver.
As
far as college street free agents go, the Bengals signed a
number of players worth mentioning. Andrews was a
sometimes starter at Wake Forest who flashed pass rushing
skills. Any player that flashes pass rushing skills is
worth a look. He faces long odds to make the team but
could stick on the development squad. Coates is an
athletic tight end with speed and tremendous strength. He
is built more like a h-back than tight end, but has the skill
set to get a serious look in camp. He could stick.
Everett looks like a great athlete on tape, but his workout
didn't support that. Still, he makes plays and is a good
developmental prospect. Jackson plays the run well, and
can get some sacks, but will never be a top sacker. Still
he could be a valuable backup defensive end. Muncy could
surprise people in camp. He was a very good player at a
small school and comes to the NFL with very good numbers across
the board. He is strong, fast, quick and athletic.
He could sneak up and win the backup middle linebacker position
if Thurman doesn't come back. Siskowic is an undersized
linebacker who is tough and plays hard all the time. If he
overcomes the long odds to make the team he will be a terror on
special teams. Wright, Muncy's teammate at Ohio is a
playmaking corner who will have to get much stronger to make the
jump to the next level. However, if he flashes ability, he
could wind up on the Bengals' development squad.
|
red
indicates workout number in top range at position in draft
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| HALL |
LEON |
MICHIGAN |
CB |
5'11.2" |
193 |
15 |
4.39 |
1.45 |
2.52 |
4.07 |
11.62 |
6.50 |
37.5" |
10'5" |
| Hall
is a solid corner with speed, quickness and athleticism.
He can play slot receivers or cover outside receivers. He
is also a tough kid who will step up and play the run.
Hall is a solid NFL prospect. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| IRONS |
KENNY |
AUBURN |
RB |
5'10.5" |
203 |
17 |
4.45 |
1.50 |
2.56 |
4.17 |
11.47 |
7.00 |
38" |
10'3" |
| Irons
will be a very good change of pace back in the NFL. He has
good speed and quickness and is an instinctive runner.
However, Irons did not catch many balls at Auburn and will need
to show he can do that to be valuable as a NFL backup. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| WHITE |
MARVIN |
TEXAS
CHRISTIAN |
FS/SS |
6'1.2" |
199 |
17 |
4.52 |
1.53 |
2.65 |
|
|
|
33.5" |
9'6" |
| White
is a big-time hitter. He plays hard all the time but is
somewhat limited athletically. His best shot to start in
the NFL is for a team that plays a strong safety in the box.
He will also be a very good special teams player. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| ROWE |
JEFF |
NEVADA-RENO |
QB
|
6'4.7" |
222 |
|
4.91 |
1.65 |
2.84 |
4.15 |
|
6.92 |
31.5" |
9'6" |
| I
liked the way Rowe played at the East West Shrine Game. He
has excellent size, is quick, has good feet in the pocket, has a
good arm, and is an accurate thrower. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| TOEAINA |
MATT |
OREGON |
DT |
6'2" |
307 |
26 |
5.11 |
1.74 |
2.96 |
4.50 |
|
7.41 |
30.5" |
8'10" |
| Toeaina
is a player who goes all out every play. He will find a
role as a rotation player who can stop the run. He is a
player coaches will love. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| SANTUCCI |
DAN |
NOTRE
DAME |
OG |
6'3.4" |
301 |
23 |
5.11 |
1.71 |
2.93 |
4.74 |
|
7.47 |
29" |
8'6" |
| Santucci
is an athletic guard who fits best on a zone blocking team.
He lacks bulk and strength but has good quickness. Worst
case, he should be a solid backup |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| NDUKWE |
NEDU |
NOTRE
DAME |
SS/FS |
6'1.6" |
206 |
15 |
4.49 |
1.54 |
2.60 |
|
|
|
37.5" |
|
| Ndukwe
is a steady player with good speed, who makes few mistakes which
could make him a valuable reserve. He will need to show he
can be a good special teams player to stick. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| ANDREWS |
BRYAN |
WAKE
FOR |
DE |
6'4.5" |
262 |
18 |
4.81 |
1.58 |
2.75 |
4.42 |
|
6.97 |
32.5" |
9'9" |
| Andrews
was a sometimes starter at Wake Forest who has some pass rushing
skills. He could get a long look in some team's camp. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| COATS |
DANIEL |
BRIGHAM
YOUNG |
TE
|
6'2.7" |
253 |
34 |
4.68 |
1.68 |
2.84 |
4.38 |
|
7.07 |
36.5" |
9'8' |
| Coates
has tremendous strength and good speed and quickness.
That's not a bad combo. What he lacks is ideal size and
production in college (22 catches is his high). |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| EVERETT |
EARL |
FLORIDA |
ILB/OLB |
6'2.4" |
238 |
19 |
4.73 |
1.62 |
2.75 |
4.46 |
|
7.39 |
32" |
9'5" |
| Everett
was thought to be a top athlete but didn't workout as well as
expected. However, he looks very athletic on tape.
Everett is not a finished product but could be worth a pick
early on day two by a team that can afford to let him play
special teams while they develop him. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| JACKSON |
XZAVIE |
MISSOURI |
DE |
6'2.6" |
278 |
24 |
4.88 |
1.59 |
2.84 |
|
|
|
34" |
9'3" |
| Jackson
is a long time starter for Missouri who is a solid football
player. He plays the run well and he gets his share of
sacks, although he is not a top pass rusher. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| MUNCY |
MATT |
OHIO |
ILB |
6'0.5" |
242 |
26 |
4.58 |
1.56 |
2.65 |
4.22 |
|
7.18 |
37" |
9'8" |
| Muncy
is a terrific athlete who was very productive in college.
He is strong, fast, quick, and athletic. He will be a good
special teams player while he adjusts to the NFL. Muncy
could be a sleeper for some team late in the draft. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| SISKOWIC |
CAMERON |
ILLINOIS
STATE |
OLB |
6'1.6" |
228 |
20 |
4.65 |
1.55 |
2.64 |
4.51 |
|
7.08 |
34.5" |
9'7" |
| Siskowic
is an undersized, but very productive linebacker. He is a
tough kid who shows up to play every down. |
|
COMBINE
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| WRIGHT |
T.J. |
OHIO |
CB |
5'9.5" |
177 |
5 |
4.44 |
1.51 |
2.54 |
4.19 |
|
6.97 |
32" |
9'10" |
| Wright
is a playmaking corner with good cover skills who will have to
get stronger to make a NFL roster. |
2007
TEAM NEEDS PRIOR TO THE DRAFT and FREE AGENCY
major
need
need
depth/possible
need
not a significant need
| QB |
Palmer
and Wright are a good 1-2, but Wright is an UFA. |
| RB |
Perry
can't stay healthy. A speed back to pair with Johnson
would help. |
| WR |
If
Henry keeps out of trouble the unit is fine as is, but that is
a big if. |
| TE |
Again,
it's time for a difference maker at TE - think what that would
do to this offense. But not a good TE draft. |
| OL |
Steinbach
is an UFA. His replacement may be on the roster already
(Whitworth). |
| DL |
Geathers
can rush the passer. Adam can stop the run. Smith
is a bit overrated. |
| LB |
If
Thurman comes back and stays back, a bigger if than Henry,
this unit is solid. If not .... |
| DB |
Better
players than they showed last year. James and Kaesviharn
are UFA. A corner and safety should be added. |
| ST |
An
upgrade at PR is a must. Holt showed something as a KR
but will he make the team? |
2006
DRAFT PICKS
Links go to write-ups at NFL.com
| Cincinnati |
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Jay's
ranking |
Jay's
draft value |
| 1 |
24 |
Joseph,
Johnathan |
CB |
5-11 |
192 |
South
Carolina |
#
4 CB |
Round
1 |
| 2 |
55 |
Whitworth,
Andrew |
OT |
6-7 |
327 |
Louisiana
State |
#
5 OT |
Round
2 |
| 3 |
91 |
Rucker,
Frostee |
DE |
6-3 |
267 |
Southern
California |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| 4 |
123 |
Peko,
Domata |
DT |
6-3 |
306 |
Michigan
State |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| 5 |
157 |
Nicholson,
A. J. |
ILB |
6-1 |
253 |
Florida
State |
#
10 OLB, #7 ILB |
Round
3 |
| 6 |
193 |
McNeal,
Reggie |
QB |
6-2 |
197 |
Texas
A&M |
#
7 QB, # 1 slash |
Round
3 |
| 7 |
209 |
Kilmer,
Ethan |
WR |
6-1 |
204 |
Penn
State |
|
>
Round 4 |
| 7 |
231 |
Brazell,
Bennie |
WR |
6-3 |
176 |
Louisiana
State |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| |
FA |
Meyer,
Eric |
QB |
6-1 |
210 |
Eastern
Washington |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| |
FA |
Tahi,
Naufahu |
FB |
6-0 |
254 |
BYU |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
| |
FA |
Henderson,
Eric |
DE |
6-2 |
270 |
Georgia
Tech |
#
19 DE |
Round
4 |
| |
FA |
Whitehead,
Terrence |
RB |
5-10 |
201 |
Oregon |
Late
Round Value |
>
Round 4 |
|
The Bengals reached in rounds
3 and 4, got good value in rounds 5 and 6, and may have been
able to do slightly better in round 7.
Joseph was a solid pick in
round one. He is an extremely fast cover corner with
decent size and strength. While is not the quickest player
coming out of cuts, he has tremendous catch up speed should he
get beat by a receiver. Whitworth is a tackle with
tremendous upside and was good value where selected by the
Bengals. Whitworth is a smart player with good strength
and more athleticism than originally thought. However, with
Jones and Anderson, there was no urgent need at the position.
Rucker was a reach. I had a 6th round grade on Rucker.
He isn't particularly big, and isn't particularly fast. He
has the potential to be a solid rotation player at end, but on
day one of the draft you look for potential starters, not
reserves. My pick at end would have been Mark Anderson of
Alabama. In fact, my first day for the Bengals would have
gone like this: TE Lewis in round one, CB Marshall in round two,
and DE Anderson in round three. Peko was also a bit of a
reach in round four, albeit not as much as Rucker was in round
three. I liked Lewis, Harris, and Cofield more at that
spot in the draft. Even as a one-dimensional run-stuffer,
I liked Oshinowo more. Nicholson was solid football value
in round five, but had a series of off field issues at Florida
State. The Bengals drafted him as an inside linebacker and
that may be his best position since he lacks the speed to be a
sideline-to-sideline tackle hound in the NFL like he was at
Florida State. In fact, the Bengals talked some about
going to a 3-4 defense, and if they go in that dirtection in a
year or two, Nicholson could be an excellent ILB in the 3-4.
McNeal may have been the Bengals most interesting selection.
He has the most athletic ability of all the quarterbacks who
were being looked at at other positions in the draft.
However, out of all of them (McNeal, Robinson, Smith), McNeal
has the best chance to succeed as a quarterback. Look for
McNeal to be a very effective "Slash" early in his
career, and the either settle into that role, or be moved to
receiver if he can't cut it at quarterback. Kilmer is a
backup college receiver who will be tried at safety. His
main value is as a special teams gunner. To make the team,
he will have to win that job. If he does then this was a
good pick, if not Bouknight, Baskett, Nance, and Lee were better
receivers on the board, and Addae, Demps, and baker were better
free safeties on the board. Brazell is a slightly better
wide receiver prospect than Kilmer, and could land on the
Bengals development squad, but the four receivers previously
listed were much much better value. The Bengals, however,
may try Brazell at cornerback. In that case, Byrum,
Gordon, and Bush were all much better value.
The Bengals sighed three
college street free agents of note. The first was QB Eric
Meyer. Meyer is athletic and has one of the strongest arms
in the draft class. However, he is undersized and needs
time to develop. He is an excellent candidate for the
Bengals practice squad. Tahi is a strong man with
excellent hands. He could stick as the backup fullback.
Henderson is a good insurance policy for Rucker. He was
injured leading up to the draft wand was only able to lift,
where he showed good strength. If
not for durability issues Henderson could have been talked about
as a late day one pick. He is an overachiever who rushes
the passer well and is strong against the run. I had a
higher grade on Henderson than I did on Rucker, and it wouldn't
surprise me if he has the better NFL career. A late
signing I just noticed is the RB Whitehead from Oregon. He
is a good receiver out of the backfield and his a chance to make
the NFL as a third down back. His speed, quickness, and
size limit his potential as an every down back. If the
Bengals decide to carry an additional third down back so they
can relieve Perry of that duty if Johnson gets hurt, then
Whitehead could stick.
|
red indicates
workout number in top range at position in draft
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Joseph |
South
Car |
5'11",
193 |
4.31 |
1.53 |
2.57 |
4.27 |
11.23 |
6.94 |
15 |
37" |
10'3" |
|
CB
Mike Mayock, Network NFL - Joseph is an
intriguing prospect.
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Joseph has good size and great
speed. He only had one year as a starter at South Carolina
after breaking his foot. Joseph is willing to mix it up
against the run, is a good tackler, and has good cover skills.
While he is not as quick as some of the other corners in the
draft, he has the speed to close on receivers if they get a jump
on him while making a cut. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Whitworth |
LSU |
6'7",
334 |
5.15 |
1.85 |
3.07 |
4.84 |
|
7.68 |
28 |
30.5" |
9'4" |
|
|
PLAYER
WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE
HIM
|
Whitworth
was a very productive, smart, intuitive player at LSU,
who played with a mean streak. The knock on
Whitworth was his athletic ability. However, while
his workout numbers were not in the Justice-Winston
range, they showed good athletic ability and strength.
While many of the top tackles in the draft after
Ferguson are big-time boom or bust prospects, who could
be stars or could be flops, Whitworth is destined to be
a productive, long-term starter in the league.
|
OT
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Whitworth is a player who was a
productive left tackle in college, who has good talent, but may
have to move to the right side in the NFL. He is a better
player than many think, he is tough and smart.
Mike Mayock,
NFL Network - May have had the best day of any of the offensive
lineman at the Combine. Knock on him had been foot-speed
and athletic ability but he showed both during workouts. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Rucker |
USC |
6'3.2",
261 |
4.80 |
1.72 |
2.91 |
4.32 |
|
7.23 |
|
35" |
9'7" |
|
DE
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET -
Rucker showed good pass rush skills at the Hula Bowl.
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Rucker had his best year his
senior campaign, getting 6.5 sacks. He also showed good
penetration against the run. However, Rucker is not a good
enough pass rusher to be a nickel rusher, and will have to add
weight to be an anchor against the run in the NFL. He
could be a good backup in the NFL, but may never be a quality
starter. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Peko |
Mich
State |
6'2.6",
307 |
5.32 |
1.85 |
3.10 |
4.54 |
|
7.70 |
25 |
28.5" |
8'7" |
|
DT
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Peko
needs development, but has the potential to be a run-stuffer.
Peko is a situational player only at the next level. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Nicholson |
Florida
State |
6'0.6",
252 |
4.74 |
1.71 |
2.86 |
4.46 |
|
7.34 |
25 |
|
9'10" |
|
OLB/ILB
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Nicholson
is a good football player whose main asset is his strength and
ability to avoid tacklers and make tackles. While he
played outside linebacker in college, he may not have the speed
and quickness to be a sideline-to-sideline force in the NFL.
His best position might actually be as an inside linebacker in a
3-4 defense. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| McNeal |
Texas
A&M |
6'2",
198 |
4.35 |
1.61 |
2.73 |
4.27 |
|
6.96 |
|
32" |
10'1" |
19
|
QB/WR/DB
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - At the East West Shrine Game,
McNeal showed excellent athleticism. He is a better runner
than passer, but can do both.
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - McNeal is expected to work out
at two positions in addition to quarterback at the Combine.
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - McNeal is one of the best
athletes in the draft. He has good quarterback skills, but
will not be a star at that position in the NFL. However,
he could be a great receiver capable of being a game-changer
with gadget plays and plays down the field. McNeal wants
to be quarterback, so it will be interesting how the team that
drafts him, uses him. Of the athletic QBs (McNeal,
Smith, Robinson) McNeal is the only one who could be a starting
NFL QB, but also has the potential to be the best receiver of
the group as well. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Kilmer |
Penn
State |
6'0.2",
204 |
4.45 |
|
|
4.12 |
|
6.90 |
19 |
40.5" |
10'10" |
|
WR - NOT AT COMBINE
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - If Kilmer makes an NFL roster
it will be as a gunner on special teams. In his senior
year he caught just 15 balls for 237 yards and 3 TDs. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Brazell |
LSU |
6'0.3",
178 |
4.42 |
|
|
4.21 |
|
6.80 |
|
35.5" |
10'11" |
|
WR - NOT AT COMBINE
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Brazell is a developmental
prospect with good straight line speed. His best chance to
stick in the NFL will be as a kick returner (not punt returner,
he lacks the change-of-direction skills) and special teams
player. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Meyer |
Eastern
Wash |
6'1.1",
210 |
4.66 |
1.59 |
2.72 |
4.12 |
|
6.83 |
|
36" |
9'6" |
18 |
QB
Jay Goldberg,
900FootballLinks.NET - Throws the ball very hard, has a live
arm, is a good athlete, but is undersized. Meyer is an
intriguing development project who could be a nice NFL backup
quarterback. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Tahi |
BYU |
5'11.7",
254 |
4.85 |
1.68 |
2.72 |
4.70 |
|
7.74 |
35 |
29" |
8'5" |
|
FB
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Tahi has excellent short area
speed, is strong as an ox, and catches the ball very well.
Tahi had 41 receptions his senior season, and even ran for
almost 500 yards and 6 TDs. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Henderson |
Georgia
Tech |
6'1.7",
270 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
30 |
|
|
|
DE
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Henderson is a high-motor guy
with pass rushing skills and the ability to play the run.
However, he had major durability issues in college. He
should be a high priority pick late in the draft because there
is little risk if he fails, but he could offer round three
talent if he stays healthy. |
| PLAYER |
COLLEGE |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY
DASH |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER
LIC |
| Whitehead |
Oregon |
5'10.1",
201 |
4.62 |
1.70 |
2.79 |
4.27 |
|
7.16 |
|
30.5" |
9'0" |
|
Jay Goldberg,
900FootballLinks.NET - Whitehead broke tackles running at the
Senior Bowl.
Jay
Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Whitehead had a better junior
year than senor year. In his junior year he ran for over
1100 yards and caught 44 passes. In his senior year he ran
for less than 700 yards, but did catch 52 balls.
Whitehead's NFL future is a third down back. He lacks the
speed and quickness as well as size to be an every down back. |
2006
TEAM NEEDS
prior to free agency
| CIN |
| QB |
With Palmer coming back from injury, a
top backup is needed. Palmer may not be ready for
the start of the season. That said, Kitna is an
UFA. |
| RB |
Johnson and Perry are an excellent
one-two punch. A player could be added behind
those two because Watson is an UFA. |
| WR |
Talented and deep. Johnson and
Houshmandzadeh are a top tier starting duo. Henry
has talent, but has some off field woes.
Washington is a RFA who won;t find takers because he
hasn't lived up to expectations, but is good
Henry-insurance. |
| TE |
Kelly can block. He can't catch.
Schobel can but is an UFA and will leave to go to a team
that will throw the ball his way. Am I crazy, or
is it time to for the Bengals to get a big time
receiving tight end who can take advantage of the
coverages defenses have to throw at the Bengal
receivers? |
| OL |
Not a need. The Bengals have all
five starters returning, and good youngsters in the
pipeline in Kieft, Ghiaciuc and Wilkerson. |
| DL |
Smith could be the only returning
starter, although Geathers is expected to improve.
The Bengals need tackles that can stuff the run, or at
least engage lineman to allow Thurman to run free. |
| LB |
Thurman, Simmons and Pollack are a good
starting threesome. Thurman will be a star.
Johnson and Miller provide quality play off the bench.
Another player for the bench is needed with Webster and
Wilkins likely to leave as UFAs. |
| DB |
Calling, a stud strong safety.
The Bengals have three good corners in O'Neal, Ratliff,
and James, and Williams is a future star as a free
safety. Kaesivharm provides quality depth at
safety. |
| ST |
Field goal kicker and kick returner are
very strong. Punting and punt returning can be
improved. |
|
2005
COLLEGE DRAFT
| The Bengals did not have any major reaches in
the draft. While Ghiaciuc could be classified as a
slight reach, he was a prospect on the rise heading into the
draft. However, they did get excellent value with Perry
in round six.
The Bengals had a nice draft. Pollack could be either
an end or a linebacker in their scheme. Ideally, they
Bengals would like to use him at linebacker where he would be
a force as a blitzer, and has a non-stop motor in pursuit.
There are, however, some questions regarding Pollack at both
spots. As an end, he may have trouble playing off
blocks, as a linebacker, he may not have enough speed.
Thurman should come in and start right away at middle
linebacker. Landon Johnson, who in his own right did a
credible job in the middle last year, could offer him
competition for that spot. In any case, the Bengals
will, most likely, cut Hardy, and have some combination of
Simmons, Johnson, Thurman and Pollack starting. Henry
could become "Chad Johnson Junior." He has
size and speed and the potential to be a big playmaker.
He could give the Bengals what they hoped to get from Kelley
Washington. Former Central Michigan teammates Ghiaciuc
and Kieft are cut from the same cloth. They dominated in
college and it appears they did so on their strength and
athletic ability, not the lack of consistent top competition.
Tab Perry is a sixth round steal. Unfortunately for him
he comes to a team deep in receivers so he may get lost in the
crowd. He will need to show his stuff early, both as a
receiver, and as a special team performer to stick.
Fanene has good size for a defensive end, and was a good
college pass-rusher. He may lack top speed and
quickness, however, to be a pass-rushing force in the NFL.
Long term, he could find his way onto a team that plays the
3-4 as a rotation player at end.
As of this writing the Bengals had two free agent signing
of note. Prior to his knee injury, Wilkerson could have
easily been one of the top three or four centers off the board
in the draft. He may need to spend a year on the injury
list getting back to full strength, but he could pay big
dividends in 2006. Josh Haldi is the second free agent
signing of note. He has excellent athletic skills for a
quarterback. However, he was an inconsistent at college.
With the proper tutelage, he has a chance to develop into an
NFL-caliber quarterback.
|
RED NUMBERS BELOW - among
best at position
Long shuttle numbers (where available) in blue, top performers to be
determined later
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Pollack |
DE/OLB |
4.79 |
1.67 |
3.94 |
|
6.87 |
25 |
37" |
10'0" |
30 |
Len
Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: One
defensive end prospect who said he would like to try playing
some linebacker in a 3-4 front, but probably won't be afforded
the opportunity, is former University of Georgia star David
Pollack, the leading sacker in SEC history. Pollack is 6-feet-2
and 265 pounds and might lack some of the athleticism to play in
the two-point stance. Pollack seems to have alleviated the
concerns of some scouts, though, that he might lack the overall
size and quickness to play end at the NFL level. "What
always jumps out about him," said an AFC defensive line
coach, "is that he has a huge motor and he always make the
big play at crunch time. He's one of those guys who might not
look pretty, but he gets the job done."
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: His
value was higher at the end of last year. However, he will
be a very good NFL player, and if he falls to the middle or end
of round one, will be a steal for the team that drafts him. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Thurman |
ILB |
4.56 |
1.67 |
4.28 |
|
7.09 |
24 |
34" |
|
12 |
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Thurman had
some off the field issues otherwise he would be getting more
pub. Thurman is an excellent tackler, who can also blitz.
He is a prototypical middle linebacker who should be a good
starter in the league for years, assuming he stays out of
trouble. Thurman could be a steal in this draft. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Henry |
WR |
4.42 |
1.64 |
4.31 |
11.26 |
7.04 |
|
36" |
10'5" |
9 |
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: This years
tall, fast receiver with game breaking ability. He should
have great workouts and charge up draft boards. Henry,
however, has a temper, and some character issues. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Ghiaciuc |
C |
5.08 |
1.79 |
4.64 |
|
7.87 |
30 |
32" |
8'9" |
24 |
Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Ghiaciuc
has followed up a strong Combine with excellent workouts.
His value is sky-rocketing.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Ghiaciuc
is a center who will get some notice now that he has performed
30 strength lifts at the Combine. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Kieft |
OT |
5.50 |
1.90 |
4.77 |
|
7.80 |
28 |
33" |
9'2" |
34 |
Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Kieft has
performed well all off-season and has moved steadily up draft
boards. He is a big man with a tremendous upside.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Kieft
is an offensive tackle who showed some strength and athleticism
at the Combine. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Perry |
WR |
4.49 |
1.53 |
4.22 |
11.64 |
7.01 |
|
35" |
10'0" |
20 |
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Perry is a
strong receiver with good size. He catches the ball well
and has good leaping ability. His area of weakness was
suppose to be speed, but he ran a 4.49 forty. He could be
a late round find. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Fanene |
DE |
4.96 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Fanene is a
former quarterback who specialty is rushing the passer.
However, he may not have the speed or quickness to be as
effective rushing the passer in the NFL as he was at Utah.
However, he does have the body to play end in a 3-4 defense. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Wilkerson |
C |
4.96 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
25 |
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Wilkerson
will not be able to work out prior to the draft. He had a
knee injury. That will hurt his stock. Going into
the season he was expected to be one of the top centers in the
draft. He has a great work ethic and is technically sound. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
WONDER-
LIC |
| Haldi |
QB |
4.64 |
|
4.07 |
|
6.89 |
|
33" |
9'5" |
30 |
| Jay
Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Haldi has
good athletic skills, but was not overly accurate in college. |
2005
TEAM NEEDS PRIOR TO FREE AGENCY AND THE DRAFT
Jay Goldberg of
90FootballLinks.NET reports:
major
need
need
position
possible
need, depth needed
no real need
Key UFA: Johnson RB, Watson RB, Houshmandzadeh WR, Braham
C, Williams DT,
Fontenot C, Richardson P
Key RFA: Bauman CB (3rd)
NOTE - RFA COMPENSATION AT MINIMUM TENDER
QB: Palmer too a big
step forward last year. He'll only get better. Kitna
is a good backup.
RB:
Rudi Johnson is an UFA who will have to be tagged if they want
to keep him. Watson is also an UFA. Perry is
untested.
WR: Chad
Johnson is one of the best in the league. Warrick, when
healthy, is a perfect compliment. Houshmandzadeh is an
UFA. Washing has yet to emerge.
TE: A
top talent at tight end would be a boom to this offense.
OL:
Fontenot and Braham
are both UFAs. So center will need to be addressed.
Other than that the Bengals line is solid.
DL:
Williams is an UFA.
He will, most likely, leave in free agency. Smith and
Thornton are good starters. Clemons would serve best as
the third end. Therefore, n end and a tackle are needed.
LB:
Johnson (this time
Landon) is set in the middle for years. Miller also has
talent. Simmons is still very good. Hardy is
adequate, but a replacement/upgrade could be found in the draft.
DB: O'Neal
and James are an underrated pair of corners. Ratliff has
upside as a nickel. Williams will be a star at free
safety, but a better option at strong safety than Herring should
be secured. There will be a lot opf options in free agency
at strong safety.
ST: Graham
is a good kicker, Larson a serviceable punter. Ratliff is
fine returning punts, a player should be brought in to compete
with Russell on kickoff returns.
|
2004 COLLEGE DRAFT
| Cincinnati |
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
| 1 |
26 |
Perry,
Chris |
RB |
6-0 |
224 |
Michigan |
| 2 |
49 |
Ratliff,
Keiwan |
CB |
5-10 |
187 |
Florida |
| 2 |
56 |
Williams,
Madieu |
FS |
6-0 |
190 |
Maryland |
| 3 |
80 |
Miller,
Caleb |
OLB |
6-3 |
225 |
Arkansas |
| 3 |
96 |
Johnson,
Landon |
OLB |
6-1 |
223 |
Purdue |
| 4 |
114 |
Askew,
Matthias |
DT |
6-5 |
308 |
Michigan
State |
| 4 |
117 |
Geathers,
Robert |
DE |
6-2 |
273 |
Georgia |
| 4 |
123 |
Andrews,
Stacy |
OT |
6-5 |
346 |
Mississippi |
| 5 |
149 |
Mann,
Maurice |
WR |
6-1 |
191 |
Nevada |
| 6 |
183 |
Brooks,
Greg |
CB |
5-10 |
179 |
Southern
Mississippi |
| 7 |
218 |
Bramlet,
Casey |
QB |
6-3 |
225 |
Wyoming |
| I loved the middle of the Bengal draft on, much
more than I liked the top of their draft. Perry had a
second round grade from me, and I believe, he is one of those
serviceable, but replaceable running backs. He is more
certain to be a useful NFL back than Julius Jones and Tatum
Bell; but both have a greater upside. However, the way the
draft played out both were off the board when the Bengals were
up in round two. On the other hand, Greg Jones (I had a
higher grade for Greg Jones than Perry) and Mewelde Moore (a
great compliment to Rudi Johnson) were not. The Bengals
like Ratliff more than I do. I had a late-third to
fourth round grade on him. He is cagey, but a little
slow and not overly quick. He could be very Jamar
Fletcher-like, a better college player than pro player.
After Ratliff is where the Bengal draft took a turn towards
the exceptional. Williams was a solid pick. He is
an excellent athlete and good value in round two. He
should be a long time starter for the Cats. Miller is
the kind of player I love. He was thought of as a smart,
hard-working, productive, big-time effort player that had some
limitations athletically. Then he runs a 3.99 short
shuttle. I'll say it again, a 3.99 short shuttle!
To put in in perspective, Kevin Jones ran a 4.11, Steven
Jackson a 4.09, Lee Evans a 4.02, Devery Henderson a 4.27;
need I go on. Miller is that productive, high-effort
player but he is a much better athlete than originally
thought. Landon Johnson was moving up draft boards in
the days leading up to the draft, and Askew was a solid pick
in round four. However, I would have drafted DT Sopoaga
in round three and an outside linebacker in round four.
Johnson may even have been available on day 2. Two of
the three outside linebackers selected ahead of the Bengal
pick in round four were players teams either loved or were
players they would only draft late. Therfore (Williams
and Joe), most likely, would have been selected by their teams
even if Johnson was available. Geathers has the body and
skills, but will need time and will, most likely, peak as a
rotation player. Andrews is an excellent athlete for a tackle
and has a good upside; with coaching, he could develop into a
solid starter. Mann and Brooks were out-and-out steals.
I had a solid third round grade on Mann, and a late
third-fourth round grade on Brooks. Mann is fast, quick,
athletic and has excellent hands. He is an ideal third
receiver. Brooks has only acceptable measureables, but
is a good football player. He is an ideal nickel back.
Both players should be long-term contributors for the Bengals.
Great picks! Bramlet was worth a shot in the seventh
round. He has the base skills, let's see how he
develops. The Bengals also added QB Scott Rislov who
created a minor buzz in the months leading up to the draft, as
a free agent. He was expected to be drafted as a
developmental quarterback. Wendell Williams is another
free agent who could stick. He should be a good special
teams player and could develop as a nice backup safety. |
PLAYER/
TEAM NEWS PRIOR TO DRAFT
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
20
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Perry |
5-11¾,
220 |
4.56 |
1.54 |
2.63 |
4.08 |
7.02 |
19 |
34½" |
10-4 |
Perry
Michigan
#4 ranked RB by Jaybird
|
Len
Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: Observation
from a NFL scout at the combine: "Another
running back I haven't been impressed with, as far as his inside
strength, is (Michigan's) Chris Perry. Now he's a guy who is supposed
to run hard, right? But I looked at maybe three tapes of him
last week and I don't see the explosiveness and the power I
thought I would. On the plus side, he has a little more wiggle
than people told me he did. He won't run away from safeties or
anything, but he does know what to do when he gets into the
secondary. I'd just like to see him knocking the linebackers
back a little more because, let's face it, he isn't a speed guy.
I'm thinking he's about a 4.55 guy (in the 40) and so he'd
better get his pads down when he's running. Oh, yeah, another
plus is that he's a very, very positive kid and, from what we
gather, a real leader."
Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports:
Perry was very impressive in his on-campus workout.
Vic Ketchman, of
jaguars.com reports: Will
Chris Perry be another in a long line of disappointing Michigan
running backs? Opinions are mixed. Some would answer yes, while
others believe Perry is perfect for the pro game. Perry,
6-0, 224, may make his mark in the pro game as a pass-catcher
out of the backfield. He's an outstanding receiver who should
provide immediate impact as a third-down back. Pauline (jaguars.com
draft expert) believes that will buy Perry time to develop his
running skills, which didn't surface at Michigan until his
senior year. “He has the skills to be a starter, but was
his senior year for real?” Pauline said of Perry, who's
projected to be picked in the middle of the second round. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Ratliff |
CB |
5-10¾,
193 |
4.60 |
4.41 |
- |
7.10 |
12 |
37½" |
10-1 |
Ratliff
Florida
#16 ranked CB by Jaybird
|
NFLFans.com
reports: Size and speed numbers may project Keiwan to
nickel duties in the NFL. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| M
Williams |
FS |
6-0,
190 |
4.46 |
4.21 |
11.17 |
6.62 |
19 |
39½" |
10-10 |
M
Williams
Maryland
#5 ranked FS by Jaybird
|
D.
J. Boyer of Football.com reports: I had Madieu
Williams and Derrick Strait in a virtual tie for the best
overall performance amongst defensive backs (at Senior Bowl
practices). Williams, of Maryland, was the man in the
secondary. He is made some huge hits and his reads and instincts
seem to be right on the money. This is a prospect who may have
flown under the radar until this week.
NFLFans.com reports: He has
the size to play safety in regular schemes and nickel packages,
and has the ability to play the corner position in dime
packages. He can cover a wide receiver or move up and help stop
the run. He is an accomplished free safety with excellent size
and good coverage skills. Isn't quite as fast as needed to cover
swift NFL receivers, therefore will likely remain at free safety
in the pros. Will be able to stay with slot receivers and has
the size to manage TE coverage. Williams has good range on the
football field, anticipates well and can make plays on the
football. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Miller |
ILB |
6.03.4,
222 |
4.67 |
3.99 |
- |
6.61 |
23 |
- |
- |
Miller
Arkansas
#7 ranked ILB by Jaybird
|
NFLFans.com
reports: MLB Caleb Miller has one of those
old-time football blue collar workman like attitudes that scouts
love and although not necessarily gifted with great athleticism,
his outstanding work ethics and strength will earn him a lot of
interest. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Johnson |
OLB |
6-1¼,
223 |
4.52 |
4.23 |
- |
- |
20 |
37½" |
9-6 |
Johnson
Purdue
#15 ranked OLB by Jaybird
|
Mel Kiper
of ESPN.com reports: OLB Landon Johnson is a player
Kiper identified as an "under the radar" player.
NFLFans.com reports: Unless
Landon Johnson can improve his mass/bulk/strength to compete at
the LB position in the NFL he may be best suited for the safety
position. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Askew |
DT |
6-5
3/8, 301 |
5.23 |
1.76 |
4.42 |
7.55 |
20 |
27" |
8-5 |
Askew
Michigan State
#16 ranked DT by Jaybird
|
Pete
Fiutak / CollegeFootballNews.com posted at foxsports.com
reports: Projected:
early 3rd round to end of first day. Good or bad move to leave
early? Uh, O.K. Askew has a big body with room to grown and is
athletic enough to play on the end. Even though he could've used
another year and probably would've been a sure top 60 pick if he
came back, he had a strong season and was good enough against
the run that he could move up with great workouts.
Len Pasquarelli of
ESPN.com reports: Observations
from two
college scouts, one from each conference, on Saturday "(Defensive
tackle) Matthias Askew (of Michigan State) has a ways to go, but
for a young kid, there definitely seems to be an upside there.
He's got a nice frame, can add maybe 10 or 20 pounds and you'd
barely know it, man. The kid hasn't played a lot, only a starter
for one year, but he can play the 'one gap' and make some things
happen."
GBNReport.com reports: In
fact, what has always been a solid year for DTs has been getting
better as the grade for junior DTs like Clemson's Donnell
Washington and Matthias Askew of Michigan State also appear to
be on the rise |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Andrews |
T |
6-5
7/8, 338 |
5.03 |
- |
- |
- |
34 |
- |
8-10 |
Andrews
Mississippi
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
Len Pasquarelli
of ESPN.com reports: OT's Stacey
Andrews (Mississippi): The younger brother of Arkansas offensive
tackle Shawn Andrews won't be a first-rounder, like his sibling,
but clearly stepped out of Big Brother's shadow a bit with a
surprisingly good all-around showing. At about 350 pounds, he
ran a 5.03 time in the 40 and had a long jump of 8-feet, 10
inches. The younger Andrews might have gotten himself into the
first day of the draft and made himself some money. |
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Mann |
6-1,
185 |
4.47 |
1.55 |
4.09 |
11.37 |
6.77 |
- |
36½ |
9-10 |
Mann
Nevada
#15 ranked WR by Jaybird
|
Nolan Nawrocki
of ProFootballWeekly.com reports: Mann
has played in the shadows of Nate Burleson the last few years,
but he is more explosive and could turn out to be the better
pro. A strong workout, like Burleson produced a year ago, could
sneak him into the first day.
Matt Gambill of
AllProScouting reports: Maurice Mann
ran 4.48, 4.51at the Combine.
Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports: Mann
ran a 40 in 4.47 seconds against the wind. He slipped in his
trial with the wind and recorded a 4.51. Afterward, he ran
routes for the Kansas City contingent and did not drop a ball.
His stock went way up today.
NFLFans.com reports: Ran
routes after the measurables without dropping one ball. He is
considered one of the hottest prospects coming out of the pro
day workouts and is rising on the draft boards around the NFL.
Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: Relatively
unknown Maurice Mann of Nevada ran a 4.47 and caught the ball
flawlessly at his pro day. |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Brooks |
CB |
5-10¼,
173 |
4.45 |
4.16 |
11.17 |
6.91 |
9 |
33" |
9-10 |
Brooks
Southern Miss
#14 ranked CB by Jaybird
|
NFLFans.com
reports: Brooks is a solid cover corner who has a
chance to become a solid NFL player. Has a knack for making the
big play when the games on the line. Led team in interceptions
and pass breakups as a sophomore but didn’t explode on the
scene as expected as a junior or senior. Brooks has all the
tools - speed, agility and flexibility to cover man-to-man and
does a good job in recognizing and making plays on the ball.
Solid day 2 prospect who’ll make an outstanding nickel CB with
a chance of developing into a fine starting NFL CB.
Matt Miller of draftshowcase.com
reports: Brooks'
experience, speed, size, potential and ball-hawking skills make
him an interesting guy to watch. He is not the tallest corner
(5’10 1/8) and will not be the best in run support, but will
be able to contribute as a rookie in nickel packages against
opposing team’s slot receiver. Needs to initiate contact more,
seems to take himself out of plays because of the contact. Gets
intimidated. Shows good speed (4.38) and will be brought in late
day one or early day two.
Mel Kiper of ESPN.com reports:
As the draft day countdown
approaches three weeks, Kiper has identified Brooks as a fast
riser.
Mark Morse of Patfans.com
reports: Brooks is my sleeper
pick of the draft. He is in my opinion the best cover corner in
the draft. I base this on the outrageous number of Pass Break
Ups he had in his career (42). This meant that he is always
around the ball. This large number is all the more impressive
when you think that other teams stopped throwing the ball in his
direction. Brooks is a bit of an unknown because he couldn’t
complete his Combine workout due to a spider bite. The NFL
doctors in Indianapolis examined him and said the infection was
spreading, telling him to stop working out and sent him home. He
stayed at the combine to complete all his interviews before
heading home. |
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE DRILL |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Bramlet |
6-3¾,
225 |
4.91 |
4.22 |
7.07 |
33½" |
9-7 |
Bramlet
Wyoming
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
Gil Brandt
of NFL.com reports: Bramlet worked out on the field
(pro day). He threw the ball to WRs Ryan McGuffey and Malcolm
Floyd, and also to RBs Derek Armah. He threw about 50 passes,
showing very good accuracy. |
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE DRILL |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Rislov:
QB |
6-1,
225 |
4.89 |
- |
- |
- |
- |
Rislov
San Jose State
Jaybird: below 4th round
|
Gil Brandt
of NFL.com reports: Scott Rislov (San Jose
State) has taken advantage of helping out on drills (at Combine)
and showing scouts what he can do.
NFLFans.com reports: He has
shown that while playing on a very bad team he has the skills to
become a solid backup in the NFL if not a starter. However,
again, size DOES matter, at least to NFL scouts anyways. |
| PLAYER |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
10
DASH |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| Young:-WR |
6-01½,,
181 |
4.49 |
1.61 |
4.10 |
11.06 |
6.71 |
- |
34 |
10-0 |
| PLAYER |
POS |
HGT-WGHT |
FORTY |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3 CONE |
BENCH |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
LONG
JUMP |
| W.
Williams |
S |
6-1,
213 |
4.41 |
4.50 |
- |
7.65 |
17 |
37" |
10-5 |
2003
COLLEGE DRAFT
|
A
|
2003
COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD
|

|
| Although I think Leftwich is more of a sure
thing, Palmer was the top quarterback from a potential
standpoint in the draft. Steinbach was a steal at the
top of round two. I had him rated the second best
offensive lineman in the draft. With Johnson and
Warrick, the Bengals were in a good position to gamble on
Washington. If healthy (I discount the off-field
inferences, I don't think there will be any problems),
Washington has as much upside as any receiver outside of
Rogers in this draft. Weathersby, on the other hand, has
talent and potential off-field issues. All-in-all, the
Bengals first four picks are all first-round talents.
Johnson was a reach in round four but could be the Bengals
starting fullback and he is skilled, so not bad as far as
reaches go. Abdullah adds depth and may have some upside
down the road. Langston Moore is an adequate tackle but
has tremendous upside as a nose guard. Moore would allow
a switch to a 3-4 defense down the road. |
| Palmer |
Len Pasquarelli
of ESPN.com reports: Southern Cal's Carson Palmer was
not great (at combine on Sunday), but didn't have to be, and
did nothing to hurt his status as the likely first overall
choice in the draft
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Matt Gambill of AllProScouting.com reports, Palmer's Pro Day
numbers: ran one forty....4.63, threw ball well. |
| Steinbach |
Matt
Gambill of AllProScouting.com reports Eric
Steinbach-OT/OG-Iowa ran between 4.90-4.96 in the forty
and had a 35" vertical.
John Clayton of ESPN.com reports reports
OL Eric Steinbach of Iowa, a guard who can move to tackle
because he's 6-foot-6, had a 35 1/2 inch vertical jump at the
NFL Combine.
Draft2003.com reports, Eric
Steinbach, Iowa -- Ran 4.88 in the 40... at 6-foot-6, 297
pounds... had 36" vertical... ran his drills very well...
looked agile and showed that he might very well have the
ability to play left tackle in the NFL...
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports, Steinbach (6-6, 295) ran the 40
in 4.95 and 4.84. He had a 35 1/2-inch vertical jump and a
9-foot-7 1/2 long jump. He benched 30 times and posted a time
of 7.24 in the three-cone drill.
Len Pasquarelli of
ESPN.com reports: Perhaps the toughest guy to peg in the first
round, because he clearly is a top 10-12 talent but plays a
position that is not a priority for most teams, is Iowa guard
Eric Steinbach. Most scouts now don't feel that Steinbach can
play tackle, which would have significantly upgraded him, and
that he is a guard who might also be able to move to center.
Steinbach is incredibly athletic, though, and some team is
going to get a tremendous prospect at about the middle of the
first round. |
| Washington |
Matt Gambill of
AllProScouting.com reports, University of Tennessee WR Kelley
Washington had further MRI's done on his neck. The doctor who
performed the surgery has declared Washington 100% for the
combine, as Washington now has full range of motion in his
neck and is poised for a big jump up draft boards. Washington
will not run at the combine, but is expected to run routes.
The doctor will also send the MRI results with Kelley to show
the NFL teams how the neck has healed. Kelley is scheduled to
workout for scouts on March 12th at Tennessee's pro timing
day.
KFFL.com reports Tennessee WR Kelly
Washington (neck) said on Friday that he measured in at
6’3” and 220 pounds. He said that’s what he played at in
college and is the weight he wants to remain at in the NFL.
“Medically I’m right where I need to be after three months
out of surgery. I’m cleared to work out. Everything is right
on schedule and I expect a full recovery,” Washington said.
He’d like to be used as both a receiver and quarterback at
the next level.
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Matt Gambill
of AllProScouting.com reports, Kelley
Washington's pro day numbers: 6024, 215, 39" vertical,
4.42 and 4.45 forty, 10'9" broad jump, 18 reps
Len
Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports, One of the biggest
question marks in the 2003 draft, University of Tennessee wide
receiver Kelley Washington answered some of the skeptics
Wednesday with an exclamation-point type workout, an on-campus
audition that might catapult him into the first round.
Washington, who did not work out at last month's scouting
combine sessions in Indianapolis, certainly established
himself as a player to watch during the Volunteers' "pro
day" drills. The underclass wide receiver, who
bypassed his final two seasons of college eligibility, was
clocked by various scouts at between 4.45 and 4.49 seconds in
the 40. He had a 39-inch vertical jump, a standing long jump
of 10-feet, 9-inches, did 18 repetitions of the standard
225-pound bench press and was very fluid in the change of
direction drills. And perhaps most important, Washington
caught the ball flawlessly from Patrick Ramsey the Washington
Redskins' quarterback who volunteered to serve as the hired
"arm" for the workout. "Not only did he
not have a drop," said one NFC scout, "he didn't
even have a bobble that I can remember. He showed nice, soft
hands, which our team was concerned with. For us, just making
a snap judgement, I would say he would probably be the No. 3
(wide receiver) on our board."
John McClain, of the
Houston Chronicle, reports Tennessee WR Kelley Washington’s
stock is on the rise after continued strong performances,
including running a 4.42 and 4.41 40-yard dash. Washington
will be part of a group of draft prospects who return to
Indianapolis in April to be re-examined by doctors to check
their progress. Washington, as noted, is recovering from neck
surgery. |
| Weathersby |
AllProScouting.com
reports CB Dennis Weathersby ran a 4.37 at the combine.
Draft2003.com reports, Dennis Weathersby,
Oregon State -- Came back to life with sub-4.4 40-times... did
only 9 reps of 225 pounds... but at 6-foot-0, 204 pounds...
his speed will be attractive to some team early...
Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: The draft status
of cornerback prospect Dennis Weathersby has been rendered
uncertain after the former Oregon State start was shot Sunday
evening in his hometown of Duarte, Calif. Weathersby,
22, was shot at about 5:24 p.m. PT in a residential
neighborhood, said Sgt. Donnie Johnson, a spokesman for the
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. While details
are still incomplete, Steve Caric, a spokesman for the agency
which represents Weathersby, confirmed the player is
hospitalized and in stable condition following the Sunday
incident. Weathersby was shot in the back, below the lungs,
with the bullet then passing through his stomach, and then
entering and exiting his forearm. No surgery was
required and the wounds are not considered life threatening.
But it remains uncertain how long a rehabilitation period is
necessary, and teams that were considering Weathersby in the
weekend draft, certainly will want a detailed analysis of his
physical condition.
Great Blue North (GBNReport.com)
reports, Given the fact that he was shot in the back over the
weekend, the news is pretty positive for Oregon State CB
Dennis Wearthersby. The Associated Press is reporting that
Weathersby, who was wounded in what is believed to be a
gang-related drive-by shooting late Sunday afternoon, is
expected to make a full recovery. Indeed, Weathersby is
expected to be released from hospital later today or tomorrow
as the bullet apparently fortuitously didn't damage any
organs, bones or major muscle masses. There is still no word,
though, on how long before Weathersby would be able to
practice or handle contact. Prior to the incident, Weathersby
had been considered a second-round prospect for the 2003 draft
with the possibility that he could sneak into the late first
round. |
| J
Johnson |
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports, FB Jeremi Johnson was 5-11½
and 268 pounds, up eight pounds from the Combine. He ran the
40 twice for times of 4.85 and 4.9. He added a 29-inch
vertical, an 8-foot-11 long jump, a 4.58 in the short shuttle,
a 8.33 in the cone and 21 benches. |
| Abdullah |
The Great Blue North (gbnreport.com)
reports LB Khalid Abdullah ran a sub-4.6 40 at the
combine.
Draft2003.com reports, Khalid Abdullah,
Mars Hill -- Ran 4.59 in the 40... came in at 227 pounds...
the brother of former Cleveland Browns DE/OLB Rahim
Abdullah... small school prospect with some good upside
potential... |
| L
Moore |
WORKOUT
NUMBERS
Matt Gambill of
AllProScouting.com reports DT Langston Moore measured 6010,
303,and did 29 reps. (Gil Brandt of NFL.com adds: Moore
ran 4.94 40-yard dash.) |
2002
COLLEGE DRAFT
|
GRADE : A-
Every player drafted
should make the team. While Levi Jones may have been
drafted a little high, there was a drop off between him and
the next OT on the board. Besides, if Shocky or
Stallworth were off the board, and Jones was available , he
could have been selected in slot 13 or 15 and there would have
been no comments. Enough said. Thompson was a
great pick in round two. He could end up challenging
Reed as the best weak safety to come out of this draft.
Schobel was also a good pick and should be the Bengals
starting TE sooner rather than later. Dorsch was the
best kicker in the draft. Manuel should be a solid
special teams player and could eventually push Hall for the
starting strong safety spot. He may have gone higher if
he didn't injury his knee at the Senior Bowl. Evans has
the look of a serviceable back-up DE.
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