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DRAFT PICKS
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| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
School |
Jay's
ranking |
Jay's
draft value |
| 1 |
6 |
Andre
Smith |
OT |
Alabama |
#4
OT |
Round
1 |
| 2 |
38 |
Rey
Maualuga |
WR |
Southern
Cal |
#1
ILB |
Round
1 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
| Maualuga
started slowly but came on very, very strong. He
dominated the later one-on-one drills and had a number of
very nice plays in the 11 on 11's. |
|
ONE
ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG |
| 6
- 3 |
Foster
1-1 Q Johnson 2-0 Nelson 0-2 Davis
2-0 Brown 1-0 |
|
|
Senior
Bowl Game |
Despite
one missed tackle, Maualuga was hard to miss on the field.
He forced a fumble and made a great read and tackle on a screen
pass. |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than
him. |
While
Maualuga is a top player on all draft boards, he is not getting
the attention he truly deserves. This is the type of kid
who can come in and be the centerpiece and identity for an
entire defense. He will be one of the best middle
linebackers in the league and will see multiple Pro Bowls before
his career is done. |
| 3 |
70 |
Michael
Johnson |
DE |
Georgia
Tech |
#6
DE |
Round
2 |
| 3 |
98 |
Chase
Coffman |
TE |
Missouri |
#5
TE |
Round
3 |
| 4 |
106 |
Jonathan
Luigs |
OC |
Arkansas |
#4
OC |
Round
3 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
| Made
nice block on run in 11 on 11's, but looked a bit
overmatched during the one-on-one drills. |
|
ONE
ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG |
| 1
- 8 |
Walker
1-1 Ayers 0-1 Irvin 0-2 Moala 0-2
Jerry 0-2 |
|
| 5 |
142 |
Kevin
Huber |
P |
Cincinnati |
#1
P |
Round
5 |
| 6 |
179 |
Morgan
Trent |
CB |
Michigan |
#19
CB |
Round
4 |
|
East
West Shrine Game |
Trent
had one shinning moment where he made a great play on the ball
to get an interception. |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
This
late addition had limited face time, but caught my eye a bit so
I wanted to see more. |
| 6 |
209 |
Bernard
Scott |
RB |
Abilene
Christian |
#11
RB |
Round
3 |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than
him. |
A
small school back to keep your eye on is Bernard Scott. He
tore it up at Abilene Christian rushing for over 2100 yards,
averaging over 8 yards a carry, and catching 47 balls for 826
yards (an average of almost 18 yards a catch, unheard of for a
running back). With that production, his workout was
important to see if he had the athletic ability to transfer
those skills to the NFL. He then proceeded to finish
8th in the forty, 4th in the broad jump, 1st in the three-cone,
and 1st in the short shuttle (tie) amongst running backs at the
Combine . Scott may need time to get acclimated, but this
is a kid to watch as he hits the NFL. |
| 7 |
215 |
Fui
Vakapuna |
FB/RB |
BYU |
NR |
7th/FA |
| 7 |
249 |
Clinton
McDonald |
DT |
Memphis |
#15
DT |
Round
5 |
| 7 |
252 |
Freddie
Brown |
WR |
Utah |
NR |
Off
my board |
| FA |
---- |
Quan
Cosby |
WR |
Texas |
#18
WR |
Round
4 |
|
Senior
Bowl practice comment |
Quietly,
Cosby had a very nice week. He didn't flash game-breaking
ability, but he made some excellent catches and showed good
hands. He also showed toughness in 11 on 11's holding on
to ball after big hit. |
| FA |
---- |
Colin
Dow |
OC |
Montana |
NR |
7th/FA |
| FA |
---- |
Marlon
Lucky |
RB |
Nebraska |
NR |
Late
Round Value |
|
East
West Shrine Game |
Lucky
looked fast, and was quick to the hole with a good burst.
He may not be an every-down back, but he could be a contributor
who makes big plays. Once again I need to see his times
since he did this in the Shrine Game, not the Senior Bowl. |
| FA |
---- |
Greg
Orton |
WR |
Purdue |
NR |
7th/FA |
| FA |
---- |
David
Richmond |
WR |
San
Jose State |
NR |
7th/FA |
| FA |
---- |
Dan
Skuta |
LB/DE |
Grand
Valley State |
NR |
7th/FA |
|
A
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2009
COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD
|
by
Jay Goldberg
|
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The
Bengals had a great draft. They addressed all their
major needs, especially if running back Bernard Scott can stay
out of trouble. They stole Mauagula and got very good
value with Trent, Luigs, Johnson and McDonald. The only
thing keeping their draft from getting the elusive perfect
score of A+ is that there is a bit more risk associated with A
Smith than with Monroe, and that while I like Coffman, I love
Nelson.
As
of this write-up, the Bengals added a number of college street
free agents to watch during preseason. The player I like
the best is Cosby who is a much better player than Brown who
the Bengals drafted in round seven.
DRAFT
PICKS
Andre
Smith scares me a bit. I had him as my fourth rated
offensive tackle, not the second rated tackle like the
Bengals. It isn't because of potential. It's
because something just doesn't quite add up. On tape, he
looks great. He especially looks strong. However,
he only lifted the bar 19 times. Running back Bernard
Scott, a 200 pound kid lifted the bar 20 times. Free
agent receiver, Quan Cosby, a 5'8.5", 198 pound receiver
did 28 reps. Smith was also out of the top third of
tackles available in the draft in terms of speed, quickness
and athleticism based on his workout numbers. Yet he
looks dominate on tape. I like the pick, but something
is gnawing at me.
Maualuga
was a steal in round two. I had a feeling he might fall
which is why he was on my list of players who will have a
better NFL career than many drafted higher than them. In
my opinion Maualuga was a top half of the first round
talent. He will be a force in the middle from day one,
has Pro Bowl talent, and will become the identity of the
Bengals' defense. The kid can hit! Oh, and Marvin
Lewis, forget starting him on the strong side, have him
replace Dhani Jones in the middle right away. A great
get by the Bengals.
All
you hear around Michael Johnson is that he is a boom or bust
prospect. Maybe that would have been true if a team
reached for him in round one. However, in round three he
is a boom or "fine for where he was drafted
prospect". Best case the kid puts it all together,
outplays his draft position, and becomes a good full time
starting end who gets double-digit sacks. Worst case he
becomes a valuable player in the nickel, getting quarterback
pressures and 6 to 8 sacks. That's fine value for the
third round, especially for the Bengals who badly need pass
rushers.
Coffman
is a big target with terrific hands who can make the tough
catch. He is not much of a blocker and doesn't have top
end speed for a tight end, but he will be a good target for
Palmer. While he was a solid pick here, personally, I
like Shawn Nelson more. Nelson isn't as tall but has more
upside as a blocker, can stretch the field and also has
terrific hands. The Bengals went for height over speed.
The
Bengals needed a center and got the best one available after
the big three (Wood, Mack, Unger). Luigs is not a
dominate one-on-one blocker, but is reliable within a blocking
scheme.
Huber
was the best punter in the draft class and the Bengals didn't
reach to grab him.
Trent
is an interesting prospect. He has good size, good
speed, good quickness and is a very good athlete.
However, he is rough around the edges and that may always be
the case. Trent has the look of a kid who will have some
moments that will make you believe he will be a top starter;
but, long term, will be best served as a valuable backup
corner and special teams player. Still he will have a
productive NFL career.
If
I thought the case of Morgan Trent was interesting, what does
that make the case of Bernard Scott? Scott comes into
the NFL with more off-the-field trouble than any other
prospect, but with the talent to be a top flight NFL running
back. Scott's troubles were not of the
annoyance-kind. They were of the serious-kind.
However, he immediately becomes the best running back on the Bengals'
roster (yes, better than Cedric Benson). He is fast,
quick, strong and athletic, and was extremely productive on
the field at
Abilene Christian. Even with all the runs in with the
law and coaches, a team taking a flyer on him in round three
wouldn't have caused me to bat an eye. The kid can be
that good.
Vakapuna
is a strong back who will have his hands full making this
team. To stick he will have to show he can be a force on
special teams and be a goal-line, short-yardage back.
Check
out the measureables of McDonald. He is very strong,
very quick and very athletic. I had a fifth round grade
on him, thinking he could be good at end in a 3-4 or at
under-tackle on a team that likes fast, athletic
tackles. Worst case this could he used as an inside pass
rusher in the nickel, and as mentioned previously, the Bengals
need to get better pressure on the quarterback.
McDonald had 7 sacks his senior year. Best case he adds
some bulk, retains his speed and quickness and grows into a
starter.
Brown
is a tall, slow-ish possession receiver who, at times, did not
show reliable hands. Receivers with his size and
understanding of the game have a chance, but he will have a
very, very tough time making the roster and is no lock for the
practice squad.
COLLEGE
STREET FREE AGENTS
Let's
see; smallish receiver, very tough, great hands, better on the
field than in workouts, sneaky fast, enters the league as an
undrafted free agent; sound like anyone you know? While
I don't think Cosby will be as good Wes Welker there are some
similarities. Look for Cosby to be the rookie receiver
in Bengals' camp who pushes for a roster spot.
Dow
has good short area speed and some explosion off the
ball. He is a candidate for the Bengals' practice squad.
Marlon
Lucky is the perfect storm in my mind when it comes to the
draft prospect analysis process. Lucky looked extremely
fast at the East West Shrine Game. Consider this tape
study. His workout showed only okay speed, both in the
forty as well as the 10 and 20 yard splits. So should
you go on tape and throw out the "numbers" as the
majority of tv talking heads preach; or should you be cautious
of the tape when the workout numbers do not support what you
are seeing with your own eyes? I believe that on
field performance must be backed up by reasonable workout
numbers (hence my concern for A Smith). Not that there
aren't exceptions. Even a lot of them. It's just
that I look at the draft in terms of probability and feel
better when everything lines up. In this case, Lucky was
a free agent, not even a late round pick, so his workout,
which didn't support his play East West Shrine Game, caused
him to fall out of the draft. So let's see what Lucky does on the
field against good competition, and don't be fooled
if he excels against third-stringers. All said, Lucky could
challenge for a roster spot (his speed wasn't terrible, just
not top shelf) and, worst case, should be on the Bengals'
practice squad.
Orton
is a more reliable version of Freddie Brown. Like Brown,
Orton has good size and is a possession receiver.
However, Orton is stronger and has better hands.
Richmond
was productive at San Jose State which earned him an invite to
the Combine. He wasn't expected to be a burner and he
wasn't, but he also didn't display good quickness and, while a
good athlete, wasn't as explosive an athlete as
expected. This caused him to go undrafted. He does
have some tools to work with so he could find his way onto the
practice squad. However, with Cosby and Orton on hand,
even that could be a tough task for him.
Skuta
was a defensive lineman in college that some (including me)
projected to outside linebacker in the 3-4 defense because of
his lack of size (249 pounds), his pass rush skills (11.5
sacks his senior year) and his nonstop pursuit (77 total
tackles). If he makes the Bengals it will be
as a pass rush specialist. |
For
chart below: red indicates workout number in top range at position in
draft
ARM-HAND
relative to position, for ranges see ranking pages for 2009 draft
LAST
NAME
at Combine |
FIRST
NAME |
SCHOOL |
HGT |
WGT |
ARM-
HAND |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT |
LONG |
3
CONE |
VERT |
BROAD |
| Smith |
Andre |
Alabama |
6'3.6" |
332 |
XL-L |
19 |
5.28 |
1.79 |
3.01 |
4.93 |
- |
7.88 |
25" |
7'10" |
| Maualuga |
Rey |
USC |
6'1.6" |
249 |
M-XL |
23 |
4.65 |
1.62 |
2.73 |
4.35 |
- |
- |
31" |
8'11" |
| Johnson |
Michael |
Geo
Tech |
6'6.7" |
266 |
L-L |
28 |
4.61 |
1.54 |
2.66 |
4.37 |
- |
7.42 |
38.5" |
10'8" |
| Coffman |
Chase |
Missouri |
6'5.6" |
245 |
L-L |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
| Luigs |
Jonathan |
Arkansas |
6'3.5" |
301 |
S-M |
26 |
5.07 |
1.78 |
2.90 |
4.79 |
- |
7.69 |
31" |
8'3" |
| Trent |
Morgan |
Michigan |
6'0.5" |
193 |
L-M |
23 |
4.43 |
1.50 |
2.59 |
4.01 |
11.07 |
|
38" |
10'7" |
| Scott |
Bernard |
Abl
Christian |
5'10.2" |
200 |
M-L |
21 |
4.44 |
1.53 |
2.62 |
4.08 |
11.01 |
6.82 |
36" |
10'5" |
| Vakapuna |
Fui |
BYU |
5'11.1" |
244 |
- |
29 |
4.83 |
1.64 |
2.82 |
4.40 |
- |
7.37 |
34" |
9'2" |
| McDonald |
Clinton |
Memphis |
6'1.6" |
283 |
- |
36 |
4.83 |
1.63 |
2.81 |
4.50 |
- |
7.25 |
38" |
10'1" |
| Brown |
Freddie |
Utah |
6'3" |
215 |
- |
- |
4.59 |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
| Turenne |
Woodny |
Louisville |
5'11.3" |
183 |
- |
12 |
4.49 |
1.51 |
2.60 |
4.39 |
- |
6.93 |
32.5" |
10'0" |
| Cosby |
Cosby |
Texas |
5'8.5" |
196 |
S-L |
28 |
4.44 |
1.52 |
2.63 |
4.34 |
- |
7.28 |
34.5" |
- |
| Dow |
Colin |
Montana |
6'4.7" |
305 |
- |
22 |
5.20 |
1.72 |
2.98 |
5.03 |
- |
7.59 |
30" |
8'7" |
| Lucky |
Marlon |
Nebraska |
5'11.3" |
216 |
S-XL |
18 |
4.53 |
1.56 |
2.61 |
- |
- |
7.10 |
33.5" |
9'6" |
| Orton |
Greg |
Purdue |
6'2.5" |
207 |
L-L |
22 |
4.61 |
1.60 |
2.62 |
4.33 |
- |
6.90 |
38" |
10'5" |
| Richmond |
David |
San
Jose St |
6'1.6" |
197 |
L-L |
- |
4.59 |
1.63 |
2.65 |
4.42 |
- |
- |
36.5" |
- |
| Skuta |
Dan |
Grand
Val St |
6'2.5" |
249 |
- |
20 |
4.72 |
1.60 |
2.69 |
4.42 |
- |
- |
35" |
9'9" |
2009 NEEDS PRIOR TO DRAFT AND FREE
AGENCY
Major need
Need
Upgrade possible
Depth/possible need
Not a need
| QB |
Assuming Palmer comes
back strong from injury, this is a strong unit for the Bengals.
Even if UFA Fitzpatrick leaves in free agency, Rowe, a player I
like is sitting in the wings to take his place as Palmer's
backup. I am not as high on Carson's kid brother Jordan. |
| RB |
This has to be one of the
worst running back situations in the NFL. Perry hasn't and
doesn't look like he'll ever cut it as a starter. Watson
is a solid backup/emergency starter, but no more. This
situation is so dire that they have made resigning UFA Benson, a
priority. Benson had some good games, but isn't a runner
to build your team around. |
| WR |
Houshmandzadeh is an UFA
an may be hard to resign. Ocho Cinco fell off the map, but
could re-emerge when Palmer gets back. Henry is talented
but with his off the filed troubles is not a player you can rely
on. As far as their two rookies go, I like Caldwell a lot
and expect him to take a big step next year, but I have some
doubts Simpson. Look for the Bengals to bring in a veteran
receiver to push to start and hopefully (if Caldwell comes thru)
be their third wideout. |
| TE |
Last year the team signed
Utecht in free agency. Injuries caused him to miss much of
the season but he could be a good receiving tight end.
Kelly is more blocker than receiver, but his blocking fell off a
bit last year. Upgrades all around could be looked at in
the offfseason. |
| OL |
The Bengals have some
good pieces and some questions along their offensive line.
Cutting to the chase, a center and a tackle could be secured
during the draft. |
| DL |
The Bengals have given
out some long term contracts to linemen recently but the only
one who I would have signed to the contract he got was defensive
tackle Peko. The Bengals other starting tackle, Thornton
is an UFA and will probably not be resigned. Jason Shirley
is a young player waiting in the wings who I like. At end
Odom and Geathers have nice contracts, get hurt too often, and
get too few sacks. In a 4-3 you need at least one
defensive ends who has to be doubled every play, and still gets
double-digit sacks. That's not Odom. That's not
Geathers. |
| LB |
I like this unit,
although adding a young middle linebacker is advisable.
However, Rivers, Jeanty, Johnson and even Blackstock and
Henderson give the team quality and depth on the outside.
Jones, a solid old pro mans the middle. |
| DB |
This is another good
young unit. Hall and Joseph are a good young tandem of
cornerbacks, and Jones played well as the third corner.
Ndukwe is a keeper at stong safety, and White showed promise at
free safety. Look for the Bengals to bring in competition
for White. |
| ST |
Graham is an UFA so a
kicker will need to be secured in the offseason. Larsen is
a steady and Caldwell is a good kick return man but an upgrade
at punt returner could be looked for this offseason. |
2008
DRAFT PICKS
links go to
NFL.com website
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Jay's ranking |
Jay's draft value |
| 1 |
9 |
Keith
Rivers |
OLB |
6'2.2" |
241 |
USC |
#1 OLB |
Round 1 |
| 2 |
46 |
Jerome
Simpson |
WR |
6'1.6" |
199 |
C Carolina |
#19 WR |
Round 4 |
| 3 |
77 |
Pat
Sims |
DT |
6'2" |
310 |
Auburn |
#7 DT |
Round 2/Round 3 |
| 3 |
97 |
Andre
Caldwell |
WR |
6'0.2" |
204 |
Florida |
#7 WR |
Round 2 |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher
than him.
|
This
is a strange draft for wide receivers. There are more
questions about the first round receivers who will be counted
on as #1 receivers than there is for the receivers who will be
solid number two or threes. Caldwell is the best of the
#2's. During Senior Bowl week he continually blew bye
corners in practice. He has very good hands, and
terrific speed and quickness. I have no doubts about him
developing into a good #2 receiver. |
| 5 |
145 |
Jason
Shirley |
DT |
6.5.1" |
329 |
Fresno St |
#12 DT |
Round 3/Round 4 |
|
Player
who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher
than him.
|
Shirley
is a monster of a man who is a very good run-stuffer. He
had off-the-field issues which limited him to 3 games in 2007
(was suspended). However, a 330 pound player who runs a
5.0 forty, has a short shuttle time equal to Felix Jones,
Rashard Mendenhall and DeSean Jackson, and a 3 cone time like
Devin Thomas doesn't grow on trees. If the he gets
drafted onto a veteran team with good discipline, he should
develop into a top NFL nose tackle. |
| 6 |
177 |
Corey
Lynch |
FS/SS |
6.0.3" |
202 |
Appl State |
|
Late Round Value |
| 6 |
207 |
Matt
Sherry |
TE |
6'3.7" |
255 |
Villanova |
|
Free Agent |
| 7 |
244 |
Angelo
Craig |
DE/OLB |
6'4" |
252 |
Cincinnati |
|
Late Round Value |
| 7 |
246 |
Mario
Urrutia |
WR |
6'5.3" |
232 |
Louisville |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
James Blair |
OT/OG |
6'3" |
323 |
W Michigan |
|
Late Round
Value/Free Agent |
| FA |
|
Maurice Purify |
WR |
6'3.1" |
224 |
Nebraska |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Tim Bugg |
LS/FB |
6'0.2" |
257 |
Indiana |
|
Late Round
Value/Free Agent |
| FA |
|
Simeon Castille |
FS/CB |
6'0.3" |
195 |
Alabama |
#9 FS |
Round 4/Round 5 |
| FA |
|
Travis Brown |
WR |
6'2.1" |
192 |
New Mexico |
|
Late Round Value |
|
The
Bengals draft was excellent, however, they could have used a
starting caliber defensive end in the draft because free agent
signee Odom is injury-prone and Geathers hasn't made a
believer of me yet. Hence the A- instead of an A.
My initial response to their second round pick of Simpson was
that it was a mistake and they should have gone with Laws or
Caldwell. Having come away with Sims and Shirley at
defensive tackle later, and getting Caldwell in round three,
looking back I now believe that defensive end Campbell or
Groves would have been a better pick than Simpson.
However, even with the Simpson pick and no defensive end they
still get an A- which shows you how much I basically liked
this draft.
DRAFT
PICKS
Rivers
is a player this team badly needed. While the team has
had some good players at linebacker in the recent past, Rivers
represents a player that can be a stable star to build around
and provide this defense with an identity. He is strong,
fast, a great athlete and a terrific football player.
While Ellis may have been the player the Bengals wanted to
fall to them in round one, in the long run they may be happier
that he was off the board so that they could select this
talented linebacker.
Simpson
was a reach in round two. The fact that the receiver I
thought the team should have taken instead was available for
them in round three (Caldwell) is a factor when grading this
draft. If the Bengals took Caldwell here and Simpson in
round three, then I would have agreed with the Caldwell pick
and felt the Simpson was okay. However, looking in
hindsight (knowing Caldwell would be available for them in
round three) as previously mentioned defense ends Campbell or
Groves would have looked mighty nice at this spot.
Simpson is a very god athlete with good, not great speed.
However he has below-average quickness. With Bengals
success at drafting receivers I'm not taking too much off
their grade for this selection, but it wouldn't surprise me if
Simpson never develops into anything more than a #4 receiver.
Sims
was a solid selection in round three. He has good short
area speed which allows him to get penetration against the
pass. He is also okay against the run but needs to get
stronger to become dominate.;
Caldwell
was a steal towards the end of round three. He is very
fast, quick, athletic and has good hands. He will be a
good #3 to Chad and T.J. and could be a top #2 if Chad moves
on. He is a better receiver and the better prospect than
Simpson.
Shirley
is a very intriguing prospect. Selected by any other
team I would be ecstatic. However, he comes with some
off the field concerns and the Bengals may not be the best
place for as player like that to tote the line. On the
field Shirley provides the Bengals with a very unique talent.
A big kid at about 6'5" and 330 pounds, he has the
quickness and agility of a top skill player. He is also
surprisingly athletic for someone his size. He could be
the dominate inside player the Bengals need. They just
have to make sure he stays out of trouble off the field.
Lynch
is a quick safety who changes direction very well. He
will be a top special teams player. However, he may
never be more than a nickel safety.
Matt
Sherry is a player the Bengals had rated more highly than me.
He catches well, and has the potential to grow as a blocker,
but is not the prospect Daniel Coates is and may have trouble
making the final roster.
Craig
was a good value pick in round seven. He has a chance to
be a pass rush specialist, but his lack of speed is a concern.
Urrutia
is a tall receiver with good speed for his size and good
hands. However, he is very one-dimensional as a
down-the-field receiver since he has below average quickness
and cutting ability. Still, he is a good candidate for
the practice squad and if his footwork can be improved, the
Bengals may have something down the line.
COLLEGE
STREET FREE AGENTS
Blair
played tackle in college but projects best inside in the NFL.
He could find his way onto the practice squad and be a
verasatile sub down the line.
Purify
has a decent combo of size, speed and hands. However,
with the number of receivers in Bengals' camp may have a hard
time getting noticed. He is also a player with off the
field concerns and may not be worth the risk as a bottom of
the roster receiver.
Bugg
is one of the best long snappers in the draft.
I
was surprised Castille went undrafted. He is a versatile
defensive back who can play corner or safety. He is a
good cover man but has speed, quickness and athleticism
measureables that fit better at safety. However, he will
need to get stronger to play safety in the NFL. If
Castille hits the weight room, the Bengals could have a
quality free safety who can cover. He is perfect to hide
for a year on the practice squad while getting him
"pumped up" to play safety.
Travis
Brown is yet another wide receiver with the skill set to be a
bottom of the roster receiver.
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red
indicates workout number in top range at position in draft
(blue
college name indicates workout #'s include Pro Day numbers)
COMBINE
YES |
FIRST
NAME |
SCHOOL |
HEIGHT |
WEIGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT |
LONG |
3
CONE |
VERT |
BROAD |
| Rivers |
Keith |
USC |
6'2.2" |
241 |
24 |
4.58 |
1.56 |
2.65 |
4.38 |
NA |
NA |
42" |
10'7" |
| Simpson |
Jerome |
C
CAROLINA |
6'1.6" |
199 |
NA |
4.43 |
1.55 |
2.57 |
4.52 |
NA |
7.08 |
37.5" |
11'4" |
| Sims |
Pat |
AUBURN |
6'2" |
310 |
20 |
5.09 |
1.74 |
2.91 |
4.80 |
NA |
7.67 |
30.5" |
7'11" |
| Caldwell |
Andre |
FLORIDA |
6'0.2" |
204 |
18 |
4.31 |
1.55 |
2.55 |
4.11 |
NA |
6.75 |
36.5" |
10'4" |
| Collins |
Anthony |
KANSAS |
6'5" |
317 |
26 |
5.35 |
1.90 |
3.14 |
4.87 |
NA |
7.71 |
22.5" |
8'1" |
| Shirley |
Jason |
FRESNO
ST |
6'5.1" |
329 |
25 |
5.02 |
1.72 |
2.92 |
4.18 |
NA |
7.16 |
34" |
9'7" |
| Lynch |
Corey |
APPL
STATE |
6'0.3" |
202 |
13 |
4.58 |
1.54 |
2.62 |
3.99 |
NA |
6.71 |
34.5" |
9'3" |
| Sherry |
Matt |
VILLANOVA |
6'3.7" |
255 |
24 |
4.67 |
1.61 |
2.71 |
4.59 |
NA |
7.18 |
32.5" |
10'0" |
| Craig |
Angelo |
CINCINNATI |
6'4" |
252 |
21 |
5.07 |
1.65 |
2.84 |
4.57 |
NA |
7.38 |
34.5" |
10'4" |
| Urrutia |
Mario |
LOUISVILLE |
6'5.3" |
232 |
16 |
4.53 |
1.59 |
2.63 |
4.44 |
NA |
7.07 |
35" |
9'7" |
| Blair |
James |
W
MICHIGAN |
6'3" |
323 |
28 |
5.28 |
1.82 |
3.03 |
5.33 |
NA |
8.34 |
23.5" |
8'7" |
| Purify |
Maurice |
NEBRASKA |
6'3.1" |
224 |
NA |
4.53 |
1.55 |
2.61 |
4.29 |
NA |
6.95 |
28.5" |
9'9" |
| Bugg |
Tim |
INDIANA |
6'0.2" |
257 |
17 |
5.12 |
1,.71 |
2.99 |
NA |
NA |
NA |
NA |
NA |
| Castille |
Simeon |
ALABAMA |
6'0.3" |
195 |
8 |
4.56 |
1.57 |
2.65 |
4.36 |
NA |
7.07 |
36" |
9'11" |
| Brown |
Travis |
NEW
MEXICO |
6'2.1" |
192 |
13 |
4.49 |
1.53 |
2.57 |
4.38 |
NA |
7.18 |
34" |
10'4" |
2008 NEEDS
PRIOR TO DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY
CIN
Major
Need Need
Upgrade Depth
Need Not
a Need
| QB |
Palmer
is a top tier quarterback. I like Rowe's potential.
He should grow into a solid backup. In the meantime,
there are teams that have a worse situation than Ryan
Fitzpatrick. |
| RB |
The
word I would use for the Bengals' running back situation is
mediocre, barring a major return to form by Rudi Johnson.
Watson is an overachiever who is a perfect backup. One
who can step in and play well when the starter gets hurt and
one who catches the ball well. Perry cannot stay
healthy, and it's time to cut the chord. Dorsey and
Irons are maybes. The Bengals need to draft a homerun
threat at running back; best case scenario, one who starts;
but a rotation player will be fine. |
| WE |
A
difficult position to grade. On the surface this is a
major strength. However, the great chemistry with
Palmer and his starting receivers seemed to take a hit both on
and off the field. Third receiver Henry is a mistake
away for a year suspension. The rest of the Bengals'
receivers are fine bottom of the roster/special team
performers, but are not top tier talents. Personally, I
would add a receiver with the potential to play a big role in
the offense if needed. |
| TE |
This
position has been a "red" category the last three
years, so a "blue" is an improvement. The
improvement is because of Coates, a free agent I predicted
would stick. Kelly is a good blocker, but as a receiver,
is not a player defenses have to account for. I still
believe a major threat at tight end would put this passing
offense in the Cowboys/Colts class. However, with Coates
they may have at least found a solid receiving tight end. |
| OL |
Injuries
hurt and helped the Bengals' line in 2007. They found
some solid players, but there line took some time to gel.
With Andrews a free agent and Anderson coming back from
injury, a tackle needs to be added for depth. An
versatile inside lineman, with size, who can play guard and
center would also help. |
| DL |
Smith
is a free agent, and both he and the Bengals may be better off
if he moves on. He plays hard, but hasn't been able to
be a consistent pass rush threat in this defense.
Geathers is worth a another look at the other end. At
tackle, Peko is a keeper, but Thornton should be a rotation
player at tackle, not a starter. Robinson is also a free
agent and he is a capable backup all along the line.
Net, net, the Bengals need a starting end, a starting tackle,
and a backup end. |
| LB |
Injuries
wiped out this position during the season, free agency might
do the same this offseason. Look for Brooks to be given
first shot in the middle; and Marshall (if he returns healthy)
or Johnson (if he resigns) to play on the weak side.
Jones (also a free agent) is another option on the weak side,
but he is better served as a quality backup. Jeanty and
Henderson (coming off injury) are the current possibilities on
the strong side. The Bengals need to bring in at least
one linebacker who could start (strong side), and, possibly
two (maybe weak side). If Johnson leaves, a backup
middle linebacker could also be added. However, a
sleeper on their roster I like is Corey Mays. |
| DB |
I
like the young players the Bengals have on this unit.
Hall and Jefferson is a good young corner tandem. Ndukwe
and White played well at safety at the end of the year.
They will make Jackson expendable, and will soften the blow if
Williams leaves in free agency. O'Neal is a good nickel,
but he wants to be released so he can get an opportunity to
start elsewhere. Depending on how the roster shakes out
a corner and safety for depth and competition could be added. |
| ST |
The
Bengals return men are okay, but of a dangerous game changer
can be brought in to add a dimension to the team. |
2007
DRAFT PICKS
links go to
NFL.com website
| Rd |
Sel# |
Player |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
School |
Jay's ranking |
Jay's draft value |
| 1 |
18 |
Hall,
Leon |
CB |
5-11 |
193 |
Michigan |
# 2 CB |
Round 1 |
| 2 |
49 |
Irons,
Kenny |
RB |
5-11 |
195 |
Auburn |
# 4 RB |
Round 2 |
| 4 |
114 |
White,
Marvin |
FS |
6-1 |
199 |
Texas
Christian |
|
Late Round Value |
| 5 |
151 |
Rowe,
Jeff |
QB |
6-5 |
226 |
Nevada |
# 8 QB |
Round 4 |
| 6 |
187 |
Toeaina,
Matt |
DT |
6-2 |
307 |
Oregon |
|
Late Round Value |
| 7 |
230 |
Santucci,
Dan |
G |
6-3 |
296 |
Notre
Dame |
# 9 OG |
Round 4 |
| 7 |
253 |
Ndukwe,
Nedu |
SS |
6-2 |
206 |
Notre
Dame |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Andrews, Bryan |
DE |
6-5 |
262 |
Wake Forest |
|
Off My Board |
| FA |
|
Coates, Daniel |
TE |
6-3 |
253 |
BYU |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Everett, Earl |
ILB |
6-3 |
238 |
Florida |
#11 ILB |
Round 4 |
| FA |
|
Jackson, Xzavie |
DE |
6-3 |
278 |
Missouru |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Muncy, Matt |
ILB |
6-1 |
242 |
Ohio |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Siskowic, Cameron |
OLB |
6-2 |
228 |
Illinois State |
|
Late Round Value |
| FA |
|
Wright, T.J. |
CB |
5-10 |
177 |
Ohio |
|
Off My Board |
|
The
Bengals needed to come away from the draft with an improved
defense. I'm not sire they did enough. In terms of
value, I like the selection of Santucci in round seven. I
had a fourth round grade on him. I also like the signing
of Coates in free agency. He could stick.
Hall
is going to be a very good NFL cornerback. Long term he
will be one-half of a solid pair of starting corners with
Joseph. However, even though he fell to the top of round
two, and I heard he was off the Bengals draft board, defensive
tackle Alan Branch is a player the Bengals really needed.
He would have been a run-stuffer and kept lineman off the
Bengals middle linebacker whether Brooks or the returning
(possibly, but probably not) Thurman. Irons was worthy of
his spot in the draft, although I liked Pittman better.
However (there's that word again), a running back in round two
might be a luxury for the Bengals even though Perry can't stay
healthy and Johnson is getting a lot of wear and tear on his
body. As a backup running back, the one slight concern for
Irons is that he did not catch a lot of balls in college.
White gives the Bengals something their other safeties do not.
A monster hitter who is best playing in the box. He will
also be a special teams demon. If I were drafting for
Cincinnati, my first three picks would have been Branch,
defensive end Tim Crowder, and cornerback Fred Bennett.
Jeff Rowe is one of the better developmental quarterbacks in the
draft. He has good feet in the pocket, has a good arm ,
and is an accurate thrower. He could be a nice long term
backup for Palmer, who could bring draft pick compensation to
the Bengals down the line if a teams wants to trade for him as a
starter. I like the Bengals' selection of Toeaina in round
six. He is an overachieving with good size and strength
who can stop the run. On other teams I had him pegged as a
rotation player whose strength was playing the run. For
the Bengals he might just have a more expanded role. He
has a chance to be a late round find for Cincinnati. This
is a good spot for him. While Santucci was terrific value
in round seven (I had a fourth round grade on him), he doesn't
have the bulk the Bengals usually like in their guards. I
thought he would go to a zone blocking team. Ndukwe could
be a good backup safety. He is a heady player who doesn't
make mistakes but his upside is limited. With Washington
gone and Chris Henry, well Chris Henry, I thought the Bengals
could have used wide receiver for depth. At this spot I
would have drafted Brandon Myles of West Virginia. I
believe he can be a solid backup receiver.
As
far as college street free agents go, the Bengals signed a
number of players worth mentioning. Andrews was a
sometimes starter at Wake Forest who flashed pass rushing
skills. Any player that flashes pass rushing skills is
worth a look. He faces long odds to make the team but
could stick on the development squad. Coates is an
athletic tight end with speed and tremendous strength. He
is built more like a h-back than tight end, but has the skill
set to get a serious look in camp. He could stick.
Everett looks like a great athlete on tape, but his workout
didn't support that. Still, he makes plays and is a good
developmental prospect. Jackson plays the run well, and
can get some sacks, but will never be a top sacker. Still
he could be a valuable backup defensive end. Muncy could
surprise people in camp. He was a very good player at a
small school and comes to the NFL with very good numbers across
the board. He is strong, fast, quick and athletic.
He could sneak up and win the backup middle linebacker position
if Thurman doesn't come back. Siskowic is an undersized
linebacker who is tough and plays hard all the time. If he
overcomes the long odds to make the team he will be a terror on
special teams. Wright, Muncy's teammate at Ohio is a
playmaking corner who will have to get much stronger to make the
jump to the next level. However, if he flashes ability, he
could wind up on the Bengals' development squad.
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|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| HALL |
LEON |
MICHIGAN |
CB |
5'11.2" |
193 |
15 |
4.39 |
1.45 |
2.52 |
4.07 |
11.62 |
6.50 |
37.5" |
10'5" |
| Hall
is a solid corner with speed, quickness and athleticism.
He can play slot receivers or cover outside receivers. He
is also a tough kid who will step up and play the run.
Hall is a solid NFL prospect. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| IRONS |
KENNY |
AUBURN |
RB |
5'10.5" |
203 |
17 |
4.45 |
1.50 |
2.56 |
4.17 |
11.47 |
7.00 |
38" |
10'3" |
| Irons
will be a very good change of pace back in the NFL. He has
good speed and quickness and is an instinctive runner.
However, Irons did not catch many balls at Auburn and will need
to show he can do that to be valuable as a NFL backup. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| WHITE |
MARVIN |
TEXAS
CHRISTIAN |
FS/SS |
6'1.2" |
199 |
17 |
4.52 |
1.53 |
2.65 |
|
|
|
33.5" |
9'6" |
| White
is a big-time hitter. He plays hard all the time but is
somewhat limited athletically. His best shot to start in
the NFL is for a team that plays a strong safety in the box.
He will also be a very good special teams player. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| ROWE |
JEFF |
NEVADA-RENO |
QB
|
6'4.7" |
222 |
|
4.91 |
1.65 |
2.84 |
4.15 |
|
6.92 |
31.5" |
9'6" |
| I
liked the way Rowe played at the East West Shrine Game. He
has excellent size, is quick, has good feet in the pocket, has a
good arm, and is an accurate thrower. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| TOEAINA |
MATT |
OREGON |
DT |
6'2" |
307 |
26 |
5.11 |
1.74 |
2.96 |
4.50 |
|
7.41 |
30.5" |
8'10" |
| Toeaina
is a player who goes all out every play. He will find a
role as a rotation player who can stop the run. He is a
player coaches will love. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| SANTUCCI |
DAN |
NOTRE
DAME |
OG |
6'3.4" |
301 |
23 |
5.11 |
1.71 |
2.93 |
4.74 |
|
7.47 |
29" |
8'6" |
| Santucci
is an athletic guard who fits best on a zone blocking team.
He lacks bulk and strength but has good quickness. Worst
case, he should be a solid backup |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| NDUKWE |
NEDU |
NOTRE
DAME |
SS/FS |
6'1.6" |
206 |
15 |
4.49 |
1.54 |
2.60 |
|
|
|
37.5" |
|
| Ndukwe
is a steady player with good speed, who makes few mistakes which
could make him a valuable reserve. He will need to show he
can be a good special teams player to stick. |
|
COMBINE
NO
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
40 |
10 |
20 |
SHORT
SHUTTLE |
LONG
SHUTTLE |
3
CONE |
VERTICAL
JUMP |
BROAD
JUMP |
| ANDREWS |
BRYAN |
WAKE
FOR |
DE |
6'4.5" |
262 |
18 |
4.81 |
1.58 |
2.75 |
4.42 |
|
6.97 |
32.5" |
9'9" |
| Andrews
was a sometimes starter at Wake Forest who has some pass rushing
skills. He could get a long look in some team's camp. |
|
COMBINE
YES
|
|
COLLEGE
|
POS |
HGHT |
WGHT |
BENCH |
< | |